Payware: My #1 complaint
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I play a bit of poker at night in the clubs over here and i think it's rather sad that quite a major number of the young people who play poker have no jobs and are on social benifits that the tax payers pay for.
now these young people seem to play at different clubs all week long,
it has been said that they need to put as much effort into looking for work as they do for getting to poker each day and they might end up better off..
sad isn't it
i wouldn't wont to be running the country things would change very quickly
now our goverment is about to bring in a carbon tax to create more povety
and slow small industies trade down even more ,
the fact is that over the past five years the volcano's that have blown there tops have created more carbon than man has made in the past 15 thousand year,,and the people still cop it sweet and say nothing .
and on top of all that we still pay taxes for people who don't wish to work '
now isn't that a joke
steve
now these young people seem to play at different clubs all week long,
it has been said that they need to put as much effort into looking for work as they do for getting to poker each day and they might end up better off..
sad isn't it
i wouldn't wont to be running the country things would change very quickly
now our goverment is about to bring in a carbon tax to create more povety
and slow small industies trade down even more ,
the fact is that over the past five years the volcano's that have blown there tops have created more carbon than man has made in the past 15 thousand year,,and the people still cop it sweet and say nothing .
and on top of all that we still pay taxes for people who don't wish to work '
now isn't that a joke
steve
"what does a ball turrent ona ice cream truck
do ????"
Chase the robbers away, and keep the kids from lynching the driver when we run out of ice cream, of course! :hehe: Rough neighborhood, the little town I live in now don't even have bullet proof glass between the customers and workers at McDonalds, no metal detectors even in the high school (ONE! There's only ONE high school in this town!).
Well, back on topic, Oprah has more money than she knows what to do with, so I tried to explain why it was her obligation to buy Trainz payware for anyone who wants it but can't afford it. She called security on me, some people are just SO stingy!
do ????"
Chase the robbers away, and keep the kids from lynching the driver when we run out of ice cream, of course! :hehe: Rough neighborhood, the little town I live in now don't even have bullet proof glass between the customers and workers at McDonalds, no metal detectors even in the high school (ONE! There's only ONE high school in this town!).
Well, back on topic, Oprah has more money than she knows what to do with, so I tried to explain why it was her obligation to buy Trainz payware for anyone who wants it but can't afford it. She called security on me, some people are just SO stingy!
Hi Everybody.
Well now, I left school at 15 (as almost everybody did in Britain in 1960) and worked a 44 hour week as an apprentice butcher. I left that and went on to work in the road haulage industry, first in the warehouse and then as a heavy goods driver working up to 60 hours per week. I then went on to become a workplace health and safety officer in the same industry finishing up in a senior position over three years ago.
I thought I was going to retire, but at the age of 67 I now have my own business created by my former employers asking me to carryout independent " route cause accident investigation" in the main.
With two other companies now asking me to do work for them I have been looking around for the last eight weeks for someone to work alongside of me and eventually if suitable take over the business. I originally wanted someone with shop floor experience in road transport and health and safety but was unable to find anyone with similar experience to myself.
Therefore I have been looking to find someone young with the appropriate qualifications who could be trained on further into the occupation. What have I found? Students with qualifications in Dance, media studies (there are too many of them for anyone to count) or drama.
I have yet to find anyone who can string two coherent sentences together when it comes to doing reports and worst of all spelling seems to be a lost art. As the reports my business produce are used in company disciplinary hearings or industrial tribunals they have to be detailed, coherent and accurate. None of the many people I have interviewed seems to possess the above skills.
That is why I stated the youngster at 16 should be concentrating on achieving base skills such as the above. Not spending the time creating Trainz routes. perhaps then he will go on to find good long-term employment and not become one in five of the young people in Britain who are unemployed and in many cases unemployable.
I apologize if the above sounds harsh, but my experience in recent weeks has made me feel very harsh.
Bill
Well now, I left school at 15 (as almost everybody did in Britain in 1960) and worked a 44 hour week as an apprentice butcher. I left that and went on to work in the road haulage industry, first in the warehouse and then as a heavy goods driver working up to 60 hours per week. I then went on to become a workplace health and safety officer in the same industry finishing up in a senior position over three years ago.
I thought I was going to retire, but at the age of 67 I now have my own business created by my former employers asking me to carryout independent " route cause accident investigation" in the main.
With two other companies now asking me to do work for them I have been looking around for the last eight weeks for someone to work alongside of me and eventually if suitable take over the business. I originally wanted someone with shop floor experience in road transport and health and safety but was unable to find anyone with similar experience to myself.
Therefore I have been looking to find someone young with the appropriate qualifications who could be trained on further into the occupation. What have I found? Students with qualifications in Dance, media studies (there are too many of them for anyone to count) or drama.
I have yet to find anyone who can string two coherent sentences together when it comes to doing reports and worst of all spelling seems to be a lost art. As the reports my business produce are used in company disciplinary hearings or industrial tribunals they have to be detailed, coherent and accurate. None of the many people I have interviewed seems to possess the above skills.
That is why I stated the youngster at 16 should be concentrating on achieving base skills such as the above. Not spending the time creating Trainz routes. perhaps then he will go on to find good long-term employment and not become one in five of the young people in Britain who are unemployed and in many cases unemployable.
I apologize if the above sounds harsh, but my experience in recent weeks has made me feel very harsh.
Bill
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Hi Bill,
Schools here in the US are now NOT teaching cursive writing....
http://abcnews.go.com/US/end-cursive/story?id=12749517
Guess typing/texting is the way of the future.
Regards,
Schools here in the US are now NOT teaching cursive writing....
http://abcnews.go.com/US/end-cursive/story?id=12749517
Guess typing/texting is the way of the future.
Regards,
Hi aardvark And Everybody
I would agree aardvark that spelling as we where taught it in my day at school is now unnecessary with modern-day computer software such as word or Open Office.
What really annoys me is that we now seem to have a generation that will not use a spell checker or do not know how to use that item of software. Yes with texting you can shorten words and everybody will understand.
However, if you are compiling a report to be used in a court or even a company disciplinary hearing that is simply not good enough. Union representatives or solicitors in a court will just rip it apart stating there could be several meanings to an abbreviated word.
The above is just not acceptable outside of blogs, texting or even forums such as this. If a person cannot output standard dictionary English, paragraph reasonably and coherently, string sentences together that cannot be misinterpreted or misrepresented, then they make themselves unemployable to a whole range of jobs that still need the foregoing skills
Bill
I would agree aardvark that spelling as we where taught it in my day at school is now unnecessary with modern-day computer software such as word or Open Office.
What really annoys me is that we now seem to have a generation that will not use a spell checker or do not know how to use that item of software. Yes with texting you can shorten words and everybody will understand.
However, if you are compiling a report to be used in a court or even a company disciplinary hearing that is simply not good enough. Union representatives or solicitors in a court will just rip it apart stating there could be several meanings to an abbreviated word.
The above is just not acceptable outside of blogs, texting or even forums such as this. If a person cannot output standard dictionary English, paragraph reasonably and coherently, string sentences together that cannot be misinterpreted or misrepresented, then they make themselves unemployable to a whole range of jobs that still need the foregoing skills
Bill
Bill,
If I could I would work with you in a hear beat. I don't have road haulage experience, but I do have manufacturing, electronics, safety, logistics, and common sense. Do any of these qualify?
The sad state of education sounds really where you are is not much different over here. I saw it first hand while at University Massachusetts Lowell back here last year. I had two rather easy classes the last semester I was there. In fact all my classes to me were rather easy now that I think of it. Anyway, we had to type short papers and give presentations in a creative arts class I was taking. Yes, I was one of those art-music students last year, having given up on industry, but anyway the youngsters could not write a paper. They were given guide lines, required to put in their references, then give a presentation. Since I was the only music major in the CA class, the professor appointed me as a lecturer on music history. I would write the paper, complete with references, cover, all formatted properly, then present a slide an pony show for the kiddies. These presentations coincided with the different periods in history, so the post Reformation England presentation, for example contained music of William Croft, Purcell, and William Boyce. The music was performed by me on my harpsichord and presented in short performances in videos. Later on I did one for the Classical and Romantic period. For this I took a trip out to the Frederick Collection in Asburnham, MA ( www.fredredickcollection.org) where I presented some performances on period pianos. There's nothing like playing Chopin on an 1841 Erard or Haydn on an 1805 Clementi.
Anyway, the other students only did one lecture each of the periods. They never had their papers properly formatted, or ready at all, and the professor, would hand the papers back to them to rewrite without any penalties.
I saw the same in the world history class I took, which amazingly was in the same room and same building, but on a different day. The subject matter was similar and the two classes even coincided with the each other. For this class there were small papers, no more than 3 pages max, including references and a cover sheet. The paper had to be typed and double-spaced to boot. The professor would never get what she required, except for mine, and I ended up with an A+ in both classes.
This is what is out there today, and why you're having the darnedest time finding someone. At the moment I am interviewing some people to expand my team at work. The caliber of these candidates is way below anything I've ever seen before. These people need both excellent communications skills as well as technical skills. They usually come in with neither.
John
Hi dmdrake
That depends on who is in control of writing the facts and who allows the truth to be known,
you really don't think there going to tell you the truth do you,,
need to know
and also remember every thing on this planet is some sort of carbon based
and the best is yet to come
steve
That depends on who is in control of writing the facts and who allows the truth to be known,
you really don't think there going to tell you the truth do you,,
need to know
and also remember every thing on this planet is some sort of carbon based
and the best is yet to come
steve
Cripes, communism versus capitalism, now we're gonna argue global warming versus natural climate change cycle? :hehe:
At wholbr, gotta play devil's advocate here - original post is "I want it free because that's the natural order of things", overwhelming response is "you get what you pay for". With that in mind, what kind of salary are you offering for this job? Have you considered the possibility that the guy with the qualifications you're looking for ain't interested at the price, so you're getting all the losers who are willing to work for less? You get what you pay for! :wave:
At wholbr, gotta play devil's advocate here - original post is "I want it free because that's the natural order of things", overwhelming response is "you get what you pay for". With that in mind, what kind of salary are you offering for this job? Have you considered the possibility that the guy with the qualifications you're looking for ain't interested at the price, so you're getting all the losers who are willing to work for less? You get what you pay for! :wave:
You might be right here, but from what I can tell, even at the salary my job candidates will be get getting, they still can't communicate or interact with people. I let one contractor go immediately. He spent more time on his iPhone texting his friends. In the middle of our meeting on what had to be done by the both of us, he got a message, and completely ignored what I was saying.
John
Let's see.....
I loved England.
I love Murphy's Irish Stout.
Interested in a burned out, retired 24 year Air Force guy?
I'll even learn to spell color, colour, if need be. (Enough Murphy's, I spell it that way anyway).
As far as schooling goes, we are raising a nation of vidiots. Rather play games and text than get out and socialize. No more writing or math, turn on the computer. Two true stories.
My nephews came out for the weekend. The batteries on the remote for the T.V. died and they sat there lost, didn't know what to do. I remember growing up BEING the remote.
Went to Chicago for a get together with family. The nephews were in the basement with their friends texting. I happened to look over their shoulder and they were texting each other while in the same room.
Guess that is what we are about to become.
Dave......
I loved England.
I love Murphy's Irish Stout.
Interested in a burned out, retired 24 year Air Force guy?
I'll even learn to spell color, colour, if need be. (Enough Murphy's, I spell it that way anyway).
As far as schooling goes, we are raising a nation of vidiots. Rather play games and text than get out and socialize. No more writing or math, turn on the computer. Two true stories.
My nephews came out for the weekend. The batteries on the remote for the T.V. died and they sat there lost, didn't know what to do. I remember growing up BEING the remote.
Went to Chicago for a get together with family. The nephews were in the basement with their friends texting. I happened to look over their shoulder and they were texting each other while in the same room.
Guess that is what we are about to become.
Dave......
Dammit man!! Too bad you (or me) is on the "wrong side of the pond"!! I've been in transportation for 15 years after 8 years as a law enforcement officer. I'm working on my bachelor's in management with a human resources concentration. I hope to eventually work somewhere as a director of safety and training. Sounds like your job is exactly what I am looking for!!!! (Wow, how's that for getting way off topic?!?!?)
Retro00064
New member
Sad news, Ron. As the article says, people not learning cursive could prevent them from understanding historic documents which were written in cursive. The article also mentions how people were asking when the typewriter came out if people would handwrite any more. Well, the typewriter was invented well over a century ago, a yes it did become popular, but as far as I know it did not kill handwriting. Then computers came out and pretty much have killed the typewriter, and now with texting on cellular telephones and the social networking sites Facebook and Twitter, should it figure that the end of handwriting could be nearer?
In the old days, things were simple yet complicated and built to last, and people were fine with them because such things were all that they knew. Nowadays you could possibly be seen as a freak or odd one for using rotary-dial telephones or using a typewriter, and possibly even for not having a cell phone.
Now, instead of people writing letters to friends and family, they type it on their computers and/or cell phones and deliver it either by email or by Facebook. And it has only been since the past couple of years or so that out of nowhere Facebook and Twitter (yes, just those two sites) have out of nowhere risen to be the world's deep obsession right alongside the cell phone. Nowadays it seems that almost every one and his brother (and sister, and mother, and father, and...you get the picture
) uses one of those sites. And youngsters have been jumping on that band wagon just as much as they have on the cell-phone band wagon, along with companies and you name it.Oh, and one final thing on the subject of English: Ever noticed how long ago they formatted initialisms like this: "U. S. A." (yes, including the spaces), and even used periods/full-stops at the ends of titles, headings, etc. (e. g. the period at the end of the original name of the New York Times: "New York Daily Times."). Now we see initialisms shortened to this ("USA") (how ugly and easy to confuse with a word in capitals), and periods/full-stops at the ends of titles/headings are long, long gone, actually since the late 18th-early 19th centuries. Yea, some will cheer on "progress", while others like me see the value and superiority of some of the ways of the past. With the World Health Organisation's announcement of cell-phone radiation being potentially carcenogenic to humans, I will probably not get any cell phones like everyone else, and instead maybe hold on to my good old home phones and pocket change for a payphone (if there will even be any left out there in the future).
Yea, alright, I will get off of the off-topic rant and soapbox now; I guess that post by Ron opened the door wide for me to rant.
Regards.
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