NYC subway Route

IND Connection via 53 St

Hi Jeff,

I do not have any information on any types of track radii. Usually what I do is eyeball it using Peter Dougherty's maps. I have an entire list of the NYCTA Station Chaining Codes that I've made, so I use the distances between the stations (especially on curves), and try to get it as accurate as possible. If you need help on the 6 Av/8 Av connections via 53 St, I can supply the chaining information below. Remember, NYCTA is chained in hundreds of feet, so a reading of "1241" means 124,100 feet from the zero. I say this, only because if the end of station A's platform is "356", and the beginning of station B's platform is "371", then 371 - 356 = 15, but since we're dealing in hundreds of feet, the actual distance between the two is 1,500 feet.

Below is the information that I think will be most helpful to you, and the relevant stations:

IND 8 Avenue Line:

59 St/Columbus Circle- South End- 1118; North End- 1124
50 St/8 Av (Upper Level): South- 1095; North- 1102
50 St/8 Av (Lower Level): South- 1092; North- 1099

IND 6 Avenue Line:

57 St/6 Av- South End- 1090; North-1096
Rockefeller Center- South End- 1068; North End- 1074

Connection between the two:

7 Av/53 St: (6 Av Tracks)- West End- 1094; East End- 1088. (Chaining decreases because it's going towards the IND Zero at W4)
7 Av/53 St: (8 Av Tracks)- West End- 1110; East End- 1116. (Chaining increases because it's going away from the IND Zero at W4)

*6 Av & 8 Av distances are different, because of the lengths of the connections from both 50 St lower level and from 59 St. Between 59 St & 7 Av/53, the distance is 2,400 feet. The distance between the lower level of 50 St and 7 Av/53 St is 1,100 feet.

If you need any clarifications, let me know.

Hope that helps!

-A :wave:
 
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BMT Brighton Beach Route (B and Q) - completed.
IND Culver Route (F and G) - competed.
BMT Sea Beach Route (N) - completed.
BMT West End Route (D) - completed.
BMT 4th Avenue Route (D, N, and R) - completed.
BMT Broadway Route (N, Q, and R) - completed.
BMT Nassau Street Route (J, M, and Z) - completed.
BMT Astoria Route (N) - completed.
IRT Flushing Route (7) - completed.
BMT Myrtle Route (M) - completed except for upper level of Myrtle Ave station.
BMT Jamaica Route (J and Z) - completed.
BMT Canarsie Route (L) - completed.
IND 6th Avenue Route - completed.
IND 8th Avenue Route - completed.
IND Grand Concourse route (B, D) - completed.
IND 53rd Street Tunnel - completed.
IND Queens Blvd Route (E, F, M, and R) - completed.
IND Crosstown Route (G) - completed.
IND Fulton Street Route (A,C) - from High Street to Broadway Junction.

Manhattan Bridge is done.
Williamsburg Bridge is done.
 
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It's the R177 Lemonade Mouth Subway Car [Modified from R32]!
 
This is the first time I've visited this thread, and I have to say this is truly one of the most extensive and magnificent routes I've ever seen developed. Keep up the great work you guys; the progress shots are INCREDIBLE! :mop:
 
All BMT and IND routes are done.

Now working on IRT routes.
IRT New Lots Avenue (3) - From New Lots Avenue to Saratoga Avenue.
 
BAD NEWS! I lost the IND Fulton, IND Crosstown, and IND Rockaway routes. I thought that I can restore the backup copies but the backup copies were missing those routes. I started working on the lost IND routes. I don't know what happened to those routes.

BMT Brighton Beach Route (B and Q) - completed.
IND Culver Route (F and G) - competed.
BMT Sea Beach Route (N) - completed.
BMT West End Route (D) - completed.
BMT 4th Avenue Route (D, N, and R) - completed.
BMT Broadway Route (N, Q, and R) - completed.
BMT Nassau Street Route (J, M, and Z) - completed.
BMT Astoria Route (N) - completed.
IRT Flushing Route (7) - completed.
BMT Myrtle Route (M) - completed except for upper level of Myrtle Ave station.
BMT Jamaica Route (J and Z) - completed.
BMT Canarsie Route (L) - completed.
IND 6th Avenue Route - completed.
IND 8th Avenue Route - completed.
IND Grand Concourse route (B, D) - completed.
IND 53rd Street Tunnel - completed.
IND Queens Blvd Route (E, F, M, and R) - completed.
IND Crosstown Route (G) - From Fulton Street to Greenpoint Avenue.
IND Fulton Street Route (A,C) - Lost.
IND Rockaway Route (A,S) - Lost.
IRT New Lots Avenue (3) - From New Lots Avenue to Utica Avenue.

Manhattan Bridge is done.
Williamsburg Bridge is done.
 
jeffmorris said:
BAD NEWS! I lost the IND Fulton, IND Crosstown, and IND Rockaway routes. I thought that I can restore the backup copies but the backup copies were missing those routes. I started working on the lost IND routes. I don't know what happened to those routes.

BMT Brighton Beach Route (B and Q) - completed.
IND Culver Route (F and G) - competed.
BMT Sea Beach Route (N) - completed.
BMT West End Route (D) - completed.
BMT 4th Avenue Route (D, N, and R) - completed.
BMT Broadway Route (N, Q, and R) - completed.
BMT Nassau Street Route (J, M, and Z) - completed.
BMT Astoria Route (N) - completed.
IRT Flushing Route (7) - completed.
BMT Myrtle Route (M) - completed except for upper level of Myrtle Ave station.
BMT Jamaica Route (J and Z) - completed.
BMT Canarsie Route (L) - completed.
IND 6th Avenue Route - completed.
IND 8th Avenue Route - completed.
IND Grand Concourse route (B, D) - completed.
IND 53rd Street Tunnel - completed.
IND Queens Blvd Route (E, F, M, and R) - completed.
IND Crosstown Route (G) - From Fulton Street to Greenpoint Avenue.
IND Fulton Street Route (A,C) - Lost.
IND Rockaway Route (A,S) - Lost.
IRT New Lots Avenue (3) - From New Lots Avenue to Utica Avenue.

Manhattan Bridge is done.
Williamsburg Bridge is done.
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That's awful! At least it wasn't all the work. May i recommend emailing yourself some routes? I think that that's the best way to maintain your files, or a filesharing website, how did you lose all those routes? I wish you luck at trying to finish all of these lost files! :eek:
Eric :)
 
I don't know how I lost some routes. Maybe I placed tracks and stations on session layer instead of surveyor layer and when I deleted sessions, tracks and stations disappear.
 
BMT Brighton Beach Route (B and Q) - completed.
IND Culver Route (F and G) - competed.
BMT Sea Beach Route (N) - completed.
BMT West End Route (D) - completed.
BMT 4th Avenue Route (D, N, and R) - completed.
BMT Broadway Route (N, Q, and R) - completed.
BMT Nassau Street Route (J, M, and Z) - completed.
BMT Astoria Route (N) - completed.
IRT Flushing Route (7) - completed.
BMT Myrtle Route (M) - completed except for upper level of Myrtle Ave station.
BMT Jamaica Route (J and Z) - completed.
BMT Canarsie Route (L) - completed.
IND 6th Avenue Route - completed.
IND 8th Avenue Route - completed.
IND Grand Concourse route (B, D) - completed.
IND 53rd Street Tunnel - completed.
IND Queens Blvd Route (E, F, M, and R) - completed.
IND Crosstown Route (G) - completed.
IND Fulton Street Route (A,C) - From Hoyt Street to Euclid Avenue.
IND Rockaway Route (A,S) - Lost.
IRT New Lots Avenue (3) - From New Lots Avenue to Utica Avenue.

Manhattan Bridge is done.
Williamsburg Bridge is done.
 
BMT Brighton Beach Route (B and Q) - completed.
IND Culver Route (F and G) - competed.
BMT Sea Beach Route (N) - completed.
BMT West End Route (D) - completed.
BMT 4th Avenue Route (D, N, and R) - completed.
BMT Broadway Route (N, Q, and R) - completed.
BMT Nassau Street Route (J, M, and Z) - completed.
BMT Astoria Route (N) - completed.
IRT Flushing Route (7) - completed.
BMT Myrtle Route (M) - completed except for upper level of Myrtle Ave station.
BMT Jamaica Route (J and Z) - completed.
BMT Canarsie Route (L) - completed.
IND 6th Avenue Route - completed.
IND 8th Avenue Route - completed.
IND Grand Concourse route (B, D) - completed.
IND 53rd Street Tunnel - completed.
IND Queens Blvd Route (E, F, M, and R) - completed.
IND Crosstown Route (G) - completed.
IND Fulton Street Route (A,C) - completed.
IND Rockaway Route (A,S) - One more station.
IRT New Lots Avenue (3) - From New Lots Avenue to Utica Avenue.

Manhattan Bridge is done.
Williamsburg Bridge is done.
 
BMT Brighton Beach Route (B and Q) - completed.
IND Culver Route (F and G) - competed.
BMT Sea Beach Route (N) - completed.
BMT West End Route (D) - completed.
BMT 4th Avenue Route (D, N, and R) - completed.
BMT Broadway Route (N, Q, and R) - completed.
BMT Nassau Street Route (J, M, and Z) - completed.
BMT Astoria Route (N) - completed.
IRT Flushing Route (7) - completed.
BMT Myrtle Route (M) - completed except for upper level of Myrtle Ave station.
BMT Jamaica Route (J and Z) - completed.
BMT Canarsie Route (L) - completed.
IND 6th Avenue Route - completed.
IND 8th Avenue Route - completed.
IND Grand Concourse route (B, D) - completed.
IND 53rd Street Tunnel - completed.
IND Queens Blvd Route (E, F, M, and R) - completed.
IND Crosstown Route (G) - completed.
IND Fulton Street Route (A,C) - completed.
IND Rockaway Route (A,S) - completed.
IRT New Lots Route (3) - From New Lots Avenue to Eastern Parkway.
IRT Flatbush Route (2,5) - complated.

Manhattan Bridge is done.
Williamsburg Bridge is done.

Yards will have to wait.
 
How are you planning on doing the yards? PM me if you need any help with it. I will help you design some of them, if needed. Currently the only one I have completed is 148 St (I'm not yet far enough north for 207 & the Bronx yards, and not far enough southeast for Corona, Livonia, ENY, CI, etc).

I would be more than happy to create the yards only & the leads and send them to you.

Good luck!
 
BMT Brighton Beach Route (B and Q) - completed.
IND Culver Route (F and G) - competed.
BMT Sea Beach Route (N) - completed.
BMT West End Route (D) - completed.
BMT 4th Avenue Route (D, N, and R) - completed.
BMT Broadway Route (N, Q, and R) - completed.
BMT Nassau Street Route (J, M, and Z) - completed.
BMT Astoria Route (N) - completed.
IRT Flushing Route (7) - completed.
BMT Myrtle Route (M) - completed except for upper level of Myrtle Ave station.
BMT Jamaica Route (J and Z) - completed.
BMT Canarsie Route (L) - completed.
IND 6th Avenue Route - completed.
IND 8th Avenue Route - completed.
IND Grand Concourse route (B, D) - completed.
IND 53rd Street Tunnel - completed.
IND Queens Blvd Route (E, F, M, and R) - completed.
IND Crosstown Route (G) - completed.
IND Fulton Street Route (A,C) - completed.
IND Rockaway Route (A,S) - completed.
IRT New Lots Route (3) - completed.
IRT Flatbush Route (2,5) - completed.
IRT Brooklyn Route (2,3,4,5) -completed.

Now working on IRT routes in Manhattan.

Manhattan Bridge is done.
Williamsburg Bridge is done.

Yards will have to wait.

acelejalde, Do you know anything about locations of subway stations and trackwork in Downtown Manhattan?
 
BMT Brighton Beach Route (B and Q) - completed.
IND Culver Route (F and G) - competed.
BMT Sea Beach Route (N) - completed.
BMT West End Route (D) - completed.
BMT 4th Avenue Route (D, N, and R) - completed.
BMT Broadway Route (N, Q, and R) - completed.
BMT Nassau Street Route (J, M, and Z) - completed.
BMT Astoria Route (N) - completed.
IRT Flushing Route (7) - completed.
BMT Myrtle Route (M) - completed except for upper level of Myrtle Ave station.
BMT Jamaica Route (J and Z) - completed.
BMT Canarsie Route (L) - completed.
IND 6th Avenue Route - completed.
IND 8th Avenue Route - completed.
IND Grand Concourse route (B, D) - completed.
IND 53rd Street Tunnel - completed.
IND Queens Blvd Route (E, F, M, and R) - completed.
IND Crosstown Route (G) - completed.
IND Fulton Street Route (A,C) - completed.
IND Rockaway Route (A,S) - completed.
IRT New Lots Route (3) - completed.
IRT Flatbush Route (2,5) - completed.
IRT Brooklyn Route (2,3,4,5) - completed.
IRT East Side Route (4,5,6) - From Bowling Green to Chambers Street.
IRT West Side Route (1,2,3) - From South Ferry to 50th Street.

Manhattan Bridge is done.
Williamsburg Bridge is done.

Yards will have to wait.
 
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