No FCT? Think before applying SP1

[frogpipe]

If you have a plain TS12 installation with NO downloaded content and apply the SP1 patch, you will be forced to download updates from the DLS in order to have the Mojave Route work correctly.

I'm sure there will be others too.

In my mind SP1 forcing updates of NON-built in content is one thing, but when it forces the update of BUILT IN content and does so at a paltry 7kb per sec, I take great exception. Up until the application of SP1, I had a choice - after SP1 Mojave is BROKEN and the only fix is through the DLS (as far as I know at the time of this writing).

Investigate yourself, please, but as I see it at this point, I'm calling SHENANIGANS...

 

[shaneturner12]

Is that not what Content Updates can be used for? That can be left running whilst the game is being used.

Shane

 

[frogpipe]

Is that not what Content Updates can be used for? That can be left running whilst the game is being used.

Shane

I was not aware that they would continue in the background. I'm sure that won't impact performance at all....

My true irritation is that the updates are being distributed via a restricted channel. I've had about a dozen or so to download since late last night - I let it run over night, and I'm still not done.

Oh but you CAN have high speed access, instead of SLOWER then dialup access, just plunk down some more $$$. More $$$ not for content, not for getting new things, to get an update that you were forced into as a result of applying this update which, AS AN UPDATE, should have had all the UPDATED file IN IT.

Not to put too fine a point on it...

 

[oknotsen]

My true irritation is that the updates are being distributed via a restricted channel. I've had about a dozen or so to download since late last night - I let it run over night, and I'm still not done.

A few weeks before I got my life-time FCT, I did a re-install and it took me ~4 days downloading all updates. I let the PC running almost 24h/day. Now the new patch included a bunch of content updates, but you probably will have some "joy" left.

 

[WindWalkr]

If you have a plain TS12 installation with NO downloaded content and apply the SP1 patch, you will be forced to download updates from the DLS in order to have the Mojave Route work correctly.

Please don't spread this misinformation. SP1 ships with the Mojave Route in working order. If updates are made available, you are welcome to grab them, but it's certainly not mandatory.

chris

 

[frogpipe]

It is NOT misinformation.

http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?100500-New-Walong-woes-Post-SP1

Straight from NORFOLKSOUTHERN37's own mouth.

 

[WindWalkr]

It is NOT misinformation.

http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?100500-New-Walong-woes-Post-SP1

Straight from NORFOLKSOUTHERN37's own mouth.

Okay, to start with you are referring here to engine specs, each a couple kilobytes in size. Hardly something for which you need an FCT. Secondly, as I stated above, these are not essential updates. You can install the patch, update nothing, and play the session.

kind regards,

chris

 

[norfolksouthern37]

that only applies if you have other JR items installed with the updated library, and i provided a tweak to the files to help fix it. Chris is correct, the game does come with a fully working version as installed. the reason yours didnt work is that you installed other content, also not a big problem since the means to have the features AND the content is provided by the very small DLS download.

please don't freak out and give people the wrong information.

 

[frogpipe]

Wait. What other content? lilb's box cars? That's the only thing I can recall downloading from the JR site. Or at least the only thing I've kept.

 

[norfolksouthern37]

still it really isnt the point. the post you started this thread with said in order for TS12 SP1 to work you need to download from the DLS as if it were required for some major download that would be prohibitive at non FCT speeds. this is simply not true. even if you HAD to download the engine specs (and you dont), as was pointed out, they are only a few kb to begin with.

 

[frogpipe]

I also urge the reader to investigate themselves, which I thought was a gesture of saying "I may be wrong"

I'm confused.

I downloaded SP1 and installed.

Walong stall has new behaviors and I posted about them.

You said there were new e-specs to fix it.

That's what I knew when I made this post, nothing about "Because I had other content from JR", which you now say isn't the point....

So what is the point? Is the overheating and odd load meter jiggling normal or not? What's the connection between the built in JR content and whatever I might have downloaded?

 

[shaneturner12]

The overheating is normal nowadays, as it's part of the latest Train FX library.

Shane

 

[frogpipe]

That's good to know, but it doesn't really address the original series of events.

 

[norfolksouthern37]

well the e-specs have been on the DLS for some times now because it was known this would be a problem in SP1. if they did not make it into the SP1 patch then with the latest train fx library installed then you need them on your system. it still isnt the point, because they are only very small and even without and FCT is not a big problem as you have implied. THAT is the point.

as for the load needle jiggling around it is not related to anything i did far as i know. i can however tell you that in a real locomotive they are hardly steady with all the vibrations.