Modified, Payware (not active)

[pepperref]

I installed the Tidewater v3 recently. All my earlier Tidewater clones became Modified, Payware (not active) and no longer accessible to operate.

I tried the log out/log in procedure, DB and extended DB rebuilds to no avail.

Today, I found that the Tidewater Point Rail (kuid2:506034:100974:3), which is the base route for my clones is listed as Not installed, Payware (not active). It was part of the betatest:sc473 patch. That patch no longer appears as a downloadable option in my Content tore library.

Is there another way that I can download betatest:sc473?

Thank you all in advance,

Hank

 

[Christopher824]

You could start here and ask JR how to fix it;

https://jointedrail.com/product/tidewater-point-railroad-ts19-version/

Or look here and open a help ticket;
https://store.trainzportal.com/collections/dlc/products/tidewater-point-railroad-3-0

It would depend where you bought it I guess. If you got it free somehow as a beta, I think the beta has ended. They have a limited duration.

 

[stagecoach]

sc473 is now Tidewater 3 in the store downloads. Once a package is removed so do the assets that were in it. As you cloned the earlier version you may find in the config a ref to the old kuid. Try altering it to the new kuid. DLC packages don't keep earlier versions if they are up versioned, only if given a new kuid number and new package.

 

[pware]

All my earlier Tidewater clones became Modified, Payware (not active) and no longer accessible to operate.

That part is easily explained.

The label Modified, Payware is used on Payware (i.e. DLC) assets that you have cloned or edited, which you are allowed to do. The exception is assets that are labelled Packaged, Payware which means encrypted and cannot be cloned or edited.

Modified, Payware assets can only be used as long as the original Payware asset is still active in your system. These assets can even (in most cases) be uploaded to the DLS for others to use provided those users also have the original Payware asset active in their systems.

If you uninstall or disable the original Payware asset so it becomes Payware (not active) then your cloned/edited version will be labelled as Modified, Payware (not active) and will no longer work.

 

[pepperref]

pware,

Thank you for the explanation.

I hate to think of all the hours I spent on those clones was wasted. I know JR has the TRS19 version of Tidewater Point Rail available for purchase. Can anyone verify if the TRS19 version is kuid2:506034:100974:3? I would gladly pay the $29.99 to recover my work.

Thank you all,

Hank

 

[stagecoach]

One problem is that the v2 is under a different kuid

<kuid2:506034:180732:10> Container Delivery
<kuid2:506034:7534624:1> Tidewater Point Rail v3
<kuid2:506034:100824:7> Old Grain Terminal
<kuid2:506034:160523:8> Shunting Work

<kuid2:506034:100974:1>
<kuid:506034:100974>
<kuid2:506034:100974:2>
<kuid2:506034:100974:3> Tidewater Point Rail

<kuid2:506034:100974:1> can be found in the TRS19 content store

 

[pepperref]

kuid2:506034:100974:3 shows up in my CM as Not Installed, Payware (not active). I clearly had it at one time to create the modified versions.

Does anyone have a suggestion of how or where I might get this ':3' version of Tidewater to re-install?

Thanks again,

Hank

 

[Forester1]

I have a bunch of grasses by WearsPrada that are Packaged, Paywear (not active) suddenly. What?

<kuid2:506034:674621:1> wp Grass no shad S 04
<kuid2:506034:892584:1> wp Grass S 2
<kuid2:506034:7835232:1> wp Grass S 01 2x20m
<kuid2:506034:783456:1> wp Grass S 01 10x20m
<kuid2:506034:523528:1> wp Grass S 01 5x20m
<kuid:506034:773543> wp Grass S 2fl
<kuid2:506034:8956783:1> wp Grass S 02 20x20m
<kuid:506034:773542> wp Grass S 2flgr
<kuid:506034:963446> wp Grass S 04 20x20m
<kuid2:506034:458943:1> wp Grass S 4grb
<kuid2:506034:892586:1> wp Grass S 06w
<kuid:506034:785269> wp_texture39_cliffs_light

 

[JCitron]

I have a bunch of grasses by WearsPrada that are Packaged, Paywear (not active) suddenly. What?

<kuid2:506034:674621:1> wp Grass no shad S 04
<kuid2:506034:892584:1> wp Grass S 2
<kuid2:506034:7835232:1> wp Grass S 01 2x20m
<kuid2:506034:783456:1> wp Grass S 01 10x20m
<kuid2:506034:523528:1> wp Grass S 01 5x20m
<kuid:506034:773543> wp Grass S 2fl
<kuid2:506034:8956783:1> wp Grass S 02 20x20m
<kuid:506034:773542> wp Grass S 2flgr
<kuid:506034:963446> wp Grass S 04 20x20m
<kuid2:506034:458943:1> wp Grass S 4grb
<kuid2:506034:892586:1> wp Grass S 06w
<kuid:506034:785269> wp_texture39_cliffs_light

Check for DLC updates. I had that occur a while ago and by updating, that issue went away.

 

[pware]

kuid2:506034:100974:3 shows up in my CM as Not Installed, Payware (not active). I clearly had it at one time to create the modified versions.

See https://online.ts2009.com/mediaWiki/index.php/Understand_Content_Manager_Status_Labels#Not_Installed

You may have deleted or uninstalled a Payware (DLC) package that contained the asset, which would mean that your modified version will no longer work. You can clone and modify Payware assets as long as the original Payware remains active in your Content Manager. The usual cure is to reinstall the uninstalled DLC package using Content Store.

 

[Forester1]

Thanks John. Nothing showing under Updates at the Content Store. List asset versions shows no newer versions of the individual assets. Not meaning to hijack this thread, but there is sure a lot of weird stuff going on with payware recently.

 

[stagecoach]

Pware the problem is the original sc473 now has a new version with a different kuid number.
Old version was <kuid2:506034:100974:3> Tidewater Point Rail
the new one is <kuid2:506034:7534624:1> Tidewater Point Rail v3
The original is no longer in the package. The nearest I can find is TRS19 content store which shows <kuid2:506034:100974:1> Tidewater Point Rail if the download shows correctly.

 

[ZecMurphy]

Hi All
Unfortunately the creator provided us a route with an entirely different KUID number (rather than an update to the original), and as such the updated route had to be packaged with the new asset. In this case it appears that this may have caused modified versions of the original route to become inactive.

I have asked our team to look into this, as your modified versions of the original route should remain available to you after updating the DLC pack.

Regards

 

[pware]

Thanks stagecoach, now understood.

It seems that the system that allows Payware to be modified while protecting the property of the original creator, both are important in my view, has a few "kinks" that will need to be sorted out.

I will watch this space.