merging two routes, different sea levels

[rick1958]

Is there any way to raise or lower an entire route to match another sea level before merging.
Two routes, one body of water after merging and each has a port at different sea levels? We have a problem.

 

[stagecoach]

What is the difference between the two sea levels?

 

[Shortline2]

Hi Rick,

If you have that route in an earlier version from the latest Trainz, up till about T;ANE there is a way using TransDEM, but in the latest Trainz, when they changed the format that program broke.
If you don't have TransDEM -> I have. ;-)

Linda

 

[rick1958]

Hi Linda!
I'm glad to see you still pop in!
I think one is TANE and the others earlier. I'm assuming the sea level on the tane route could be used as a base and the others adjusted to it? I'll send you an email to discuss it...Thank you!

Hi Rick,

If you have that route in an earlier version from the latest Trainz, up till about T;ANE there is a way using TransDEM, but in the latest Trainz, when they changed the format that program broke.
If you don't have TransDEM -> I have. ;-)

Linda

 

[jjslll54]

I had to make a transition section to merge two routes due to height differences. I basically made a large loop (like Williams Loop or Tehachapi Loop) to keep the grade reasonable. Works out great and allows for a transition of terrane type if needed.

Jack





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[rick1958]

With the land, it hasn't been a problem. The height differences have been close enough to put a blank baseboard between the two routes and "rough it in"
Water is a diferent problem. The water bodies of the two routes can't touch. Once they do, one will flood or the other drain. I've been "reworking" the coastline to allow a one-grid gap between bodies of water. That works, but I was trying to see if there was a way to make them all uniform. Linda, Shortline2, says she may have a solution using Transdem.

 

[JCitron]

Linda's solution works if the build-version is correct. Meaning, if the route you want to adjust is done in early TANE or below meaning pre SP3, you can adjust the height in Trans DEM.

How it's done:

You go to the Trainz menu located on the top bar.
Click on Adjust Elevations on Entire Route...
You put in the height difference between the routes.

Optionally create a new version.

I always make a full backup of both routes prior to doing this.

Now, if you can't do this due to the route version, you can always use a peninsula of some sort to prevent the water from connecting. This doesn't have to be a straight edge either and more on the idea of a curved rocky coast if it fits into your terrain and scenery.

 

[stagecoach]

The water bodies of the two routes can't touch. Once they do, one will flood or the other drain. I've been "reworking" the coastline to allow a one-grid gap between bodies of water. That works, but I was trying to see if there was a way to make them all uniform. Linda, Shortline2, says she may have a solution using Transdem.

The two bodies won't flood or drain each other unless you use the adjust height tool for the water. It is possible to have a very gentle slope between the two levels without it showing on a small difference in height.

 

[rick1958]

The two bodies won't flood or drain each other unless you use the adjust height tool for the water. It is possible to have a very gentle slope between the two levels without it showing on a small difference in height.

I didn't know that, I guess becuase I'm always messing with the height tool. Good to know...thanks

 

[Shortline2]

Hi Rick, all,

It was a simple job in TransDEM, the hardest part was to remember how to do it.

Yes, two routes did not show up in TransDEM, but it was just to change the filenames of the files to a the Trainz standard of the time as the third had it, and when the elevation changed, just to change the filenames back.

Now, I just await the verdict from Rick if it works in his end as wished for, or if something did go wrong other then the water as i only checked the water level before shipping of the changed work.

Thanks Rick for the temptation to open T:ANE again.
It did not "worked though", it was real easy to close it and leave it. ;-)

So, I guess I am almost free of the "Trainz Bug", yeah, great....
not really but in my head, funny right now.

Linda

 

[rick1958]

Hey Linda..Getting you back into trainz maybe didn't work this time, but I'm not done trying...LOL
Your "fix" worked perfectly. Seamless water line route after route!. Exactly what I was hoping for. Thank you sooo much!
Now I need to dream up another problem to make you open TANE again. I'll be back.

Hi Rick, all,

It was a simple job in TransDEM, the hardest part was to remember how to do it.

Yes, two routes did not show up in TransDEM, but it was just to change the filenames of the files to a the Trainz standard of the time as the third had it, and when the elevation changed, just to change the filenames back.

Now, I just await the verdict from Rick if it works in his end as wished for, or if something did go wrong other then the water as i only checked the water level before shipping of the changed work.

Thanks Rick for the temptation to open T:ANE again.
It did not "worked though", it was real easy to close it and leave it. ;-)

So, I guess I am almost free of the "Trainz Bug", yeah, great....
not really but in my head, funny right now.

Linda

 

[Shortline2]

Great Rick, PS, I was in T:ANE today, thanks to another Trainz user and a certain copper mill...
Hopefully that helped him a little longer, like it did with you.

 

[rick1958]

Great Rick, PS, I was in T:ANE today, thanks to another Trainz user and a certain copper mill...
Hopefully that helped him a little longer, like it did with you.

I think I remember reading a post involving that mine. Glad it worked out for him.
One step closer to getting you back in Trainz