Kuji Rail sim release date Friday 5th October 2007

[BLueNeon]

BTW, where have all the point motors or junction levers gone? I can't see any.

Alberte

Jct. Levers etc.. are there, don't worry

Tom

Correct ... manual junction levers are modeled , blades animate when clicking on the levers .

Incorrect ... auto/electric junctions are the one's where you see no point motors ... point motors are NOT modeled at all on the included routes , nor can I find any included on the disc after checking the dds and xml files.

 

[philskene]

A quick report for any interested.

I've just installed this new simulation.

The steam train sounds are superb. Pity Trainz can't replicate this.

But for a simulation that promises so much it actually provides very little. After a half hour or so I'm a little bored by it all.

The scenery is good. The rolling stock adequately done, but certainly not as good as the best freeware in Trainz.

The zoom out camera view when driving is almost as limited as in the original MSTS, and the free roaming camera view an absolute joke - it requires the coordination of a brain surgeon to track properly.

The final insult is that it takes an hour to uninstall.

And, yes, I detected Internet activity towards the end of the installation process. Ominous!

Phil

 

[flathog]

Any "point motor" points are automatic...The actual box isn't modelled but the automatic part is

Tom
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[Perchpole]

Just because it doesn't happen to appeal to you doesn't mean that others won't appreciate it, and that it is to be dismissed as frippery...

Maybe you don't care about driving trains? If so, then fine - that feature won't appeal to you. But given that driving trains is a pretty important part of a train simulation, I'm willing to bet it'll appeal to someone here...

And yes, if you were to build one of the future featured routes, then you'd get to make the requests about what features you wanted for that edition...)

...Replacing it isn't going to bring about world peace and magically make everything better, but it's a good solid step in that direction.

Blimey! I'm guessing I've nudged the button called "Bloodnok's baby".



Perch

 

[Euphod]

Really? You think?
Ed

 

[Mike10]

Blimey! I'm guessing I've nudged the button called "Bloodnok's baby".



Perch

It's looking that way

I liked 'frippery' though .... good word

Mike.

 

[zatovisualworks]

Thanks Alberte, its amazing how irresponsible some companies are. If they would have not given us the 19th as a firm date for downloading, we could have ordered it as a hardcopy and would already be playing the game, for good or worst. Talk about customer service.

BTW, I downloaded the download manager, but I can't even see the game in the EA store downloads. Am I doing something wrong?

As I should have done from the beginning, I went to the nearest corner game shop and there it was. Let EA alone with their ridiculous downloading system (Ship Simulator sells downloading copies on-line simplier and more effectively) :n:

No, BBK, Rail Simulator has disappeared from the EA store; it became the Ghost Game there. :hehe:

Alberte :wave:

 

[bjablonka]

Glad you have it! Stores here in the US don't have it yet. I think I will order it from Europe.

 

[chuffchuff]

Long live Trainz (again)

I don't think Auran has anything to worry about

Like MSTS Rail Simulator is very pretty.

Unlike Trainz the route editor which is made out to be the "bees knees" in their promo video actually turns out to be about as user friendy in operation as a nest of wasps in your underpants.

In fact I think I've been stung just buying it

I'm not alone in my feelings as you can see if you visit the railsim forum.

Just another Paris Hilton rail sim - pretty enough but not much to talk about once you look inside the package.

Trainz however is my Mona Lisa sim - not a ravishing beauty but a work of art none the less - and that is why it has survived many years.

Anyway like many of us I've tried just about every rail sim ever but everytime Trainz is the only "Brand" that is and still will be used daily.

Dave

 

[jkerlee]

Well the EA forum is now saying that the Rail Simulator download will not be available intill 19 NOVEMBER. Would have been nice if they had contacted me with that info since I have TWO open support tickets with "customer service". So I have asked for a refund...again. Different email address this time so maybe i'll get an answer, If not I'll have to esclate the dispute I filed with PayPal.

So if your in the USA and was thinking about trying Rail Sim you might as well forget it for a while. Or order it from somewhere that will ship to the US. As far as the US version goes, I've seen release dates ranging from November to Mid January.

 

[zatovisualworks]

I don't think Auran has anything to worry about

Hi Dave,

The only thing Auran has to worry about is 'not having a real competitor' and sitting comfortably watching how others hit the wall. But since I don't think the Brisbane team to be that kind (or that blind), no fear.

Happy weekend.

Alberte :wave:

 

[AHSAN]

Hello

kuju was a easy competitor for Auran.

Alberte my friend just forget Kuju's Rail Sim not worth it and wait for TC 3.

Regards

Ahsan

 

[Rik81]

Remember MSTS?

That (MSTS) was the train simulator that actually was released to the world about six months before the first TRAINZ. After TRAINZ came out I never looked back. I have not read anything here that persuades me to even look at RS. That is too bad really, since I think at least some of the people responsible for MSTS are now involved in RS. If true, one would expect something better. TRAINZ on the other hand, and my opinion, has continued to improve in the intervening years.

 

[zatovisualworks]

Hello

kuju was a easy competitor for Auran.

Alberte my friend just forget Kuju's Rail Sim not worth it and wait for TC 3.

Regards

Ahsan

My dear Ahsan,

Let me explain to you my current situation in front of my computer right now:

On the one hand, I'm writing this post... On the other hand, and holding it, I have my brand new copy of RS and from my deepest corner of laziness I'm starting feeling like not installing it. :hehe:

:hehe: But I'm a disciplined and coherent person and... if I want to talk personal and objective I need to install it and suffer from whatever buggy consequence it could bring along. That's the price we, dedicated virtual trainzers, have to go through. Resignation , is it a virtue or a punishment?

Take care, Ahsan.

Alberte :wave:

 

[flathog]

The way I see it is...

RS is a REAL Rail simulator...Auran is more of a "toy" train simulator...

Once all the bugs in RS are fixed, and un-doubtedly they will be it will anihilate the Trainz series. The physics in RS are SO much better...

Tom
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[laika]

Hi,

Yes Trainz has always improved over the years. But i think it is time to tweak the GFX engine. Thats the real problem i have with Trainz(need more FPS). I think when that can be done it will be a serious competion for the future for any sim that comes out. Look what Trainz can do. Well there is almost nothing it can't do. Sometimes the AI does strange things, but i think when you make good session and a good signal setup etc this problem is almost out of the picture. Also the sound need some tweaks.
But for the moment i love Trainz.
KRS is nohing more then an arcade game out of the box. The worst signaling i ever see in a sim. etc. Even when the tools will come out and this game is patched it will take years to reach the many content that Trainz or MSTS already has. And the problem is that MSTS2 and Zusi 3 is waiting. So how many peeps want to go in with RS? maby alot want to wait first what these sims are bring to us. I think when EA had given Kuju alot more time maby this product was alot better out of the box. I cant just imagine that GR is involved inhere. When i see the routes the make for MSTS well then they can do alot better

Originally Posted by chuffchuff
Unlike Trainz the route editor which is made out to be the "bees knees" in their promo video actually turns out to be about as user friendy in operation as a nest of wasps in your underpants.

Lol nice taking mate a nest of wasp in your underpants this game is yet:hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:

Greetz Laika:wave:

 

[zatovisualworks]

The way I see it is...

RS is a REAL Rail simulator...Auran is more of a "toy" train simulator...

Once all the bugs in RS are fixed, and un-doubtedly they will be it will anihilate the Trainz series.

Tom

Yes, Tom, we know, we know that good old story. We have been told that many times with MSTS and now with RS with no success among us. The fact is that Trainz is still here -anihilated or massacred or buried under forty tons of radioactive scrap, if you like- I feel you are trying to preach us, and some of us are really expert on this gaming part of life. IMHO, your missioning here is useless, but your opinion is respected and agreed by some others, of course.

All my respect, Tom, but... I know what I have just bought on that corner game shop today.

Take care,

Alberte :wave:

 

[laika]

Hi,

@Alberte
I hope the pain was not to mutch for you my friend, afhter installing this game. I feel very sorry for you that the downloadlink didn't work. This is really a bad what EA did.

Originally Posted by flathog
The way I see it is...

RS is a REAL Rail simulator...Auran is more of a "toy" train simulator...

Once all the bugs in RS are fixed, and un-doubtedly they will be it will anihilate the Trainz series.

Tom

Well glad you like this sim. No problem at all. But naming Trainz a toy game is totally misplace inhere. Did you ever used bloodnok, or snowsignal signals and many other signal systems for Trainz and also the rolling stock from snowsignal and ofcourse many others. As a traindriver in RL in the Netherlands i can tell you that using these signals and rollingstock isn't toy stuff at all. Its alot more real then RS. We will see when this game is patched if it can reached Trainz on that issue.
Btw drive a Turbo class in RS and afther that an Turbo class made by snowsignal. In my opinion the Trainz version is more real to me.

Greetz Laika:wave:

 

[john259]

Once all the bugs in RS are fixed, and un-doubtedly they will be...

Not necessarily. Due to lack of testing, or lack of listening to what the testers were reporting, the product has now established itself a widespread extremely poor reputation on the forums and in Internet retailers' customer reviews. If shops have to offer refunds to large numbers of disappointed buyers and if the magazine reviews are poor, EA may well decide to cut their losses and drop it with no further fixes ever released. The delays in providing the downloadable version, the developer add-ons and adequate documentation don't seem to bode well for the future of KRS.

There might be an underlying good program here but even if there is, EA would appear to have risked killing at birth it by its premature release.

There's a lesson here for everyone except Microsoft in the computer programming industry. Deciding to ignore what your testers are telling you might bring in a few dollars for a few weeks but longer term it might also be a company-threatening policy.

John

 

[enginetension]

The way I see it is...

RS is a REAL Rail simulator...Auran is more of a "toy" train simulator...

Once all the bugs in RS are fixed, and un-doubtedly they will be it will anihilate the Trainz series. The physics in RS are SO much better...

Tom

And the moon is made from cheese…… Seriously if I have to hear one more time RS and MSTS are real simulators and TRS is a “toy” simulator I am going to have a fit…. Show me one thing in either of them that makes them a real simulator..

Does my chair tilt when I go through bends???? Do I feel the acceleration when I pull away or the forward motion when I slam on emergency brakes??? NO I don’t

So from that perspective they are all “toy” simulators.. So please MSTS fans and RS fans stop trying to convert us.

I have all of them and to be honest I still prefer TRS, and TRS is going to get even better.. Just keep watching the horizon