JointedRail stuff [screenshots/renders]
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Wearsprada
Oleksiy (content creator)
Default, closer to autumn i will make custom cab.
Just curious; what was the reason for NS' dislike for widecabs? And why were they forced to buy those anyway?
http://www.jointedrail.com/images/screenshots/1763.jpg
Did BNSF ever had analog cabs on their SD70M as well? I can't seem to find any evidence of this being so. Digital cabs are nice but analog ones make me feel more at home, old school. Only reason I ever head my trains with a H1 D9.
Pretty sure the FRA requires wide cabs now for safety reasons. I would like to know why NS avoided them for so long, but they were slow to catch on to other things too. They didn't purchase new AC units for years after everyone else and their corporate predecessors, Southern and the N&W, maintained high short hoods pretty much until the merger in the 80s.
The reason why they're only just starting purchasing AC units is because they are more expensive than DC units. An AC unit can cost as much as $1,000,000 more than a DC unit. From what I see, it seems that NS takes more time weighing the costs of the add-ons, such as AC traction and wide cabs, before deciding whether or not to purchase new units with these add-ons.
Opus has pretty much named the reasons. NS is slow to adapt to new locomotive technologies. The Southern and N&W mentalities were still very strong in the early to mid 90s, when NS started to buy Dash 9-40Cs. Many of the older pre-Conrail merger workers still hold that mentality. NS did not give up long hood forward operation on new locomotive orders until the late 80s. The last locomotives to come equipped with LHF operation were the C39-8s. NS continued to buy standard cabs on all locomotives until 1995. In 1995, the FRA forced NS to order wide cab equipped Dash 9-40CWs. The SD70 orders still managed to come out with spartan cabs right through the breakup of Conrail, however. The Conrail merger changed many things, with the influx of 58% of the Conrail workforce. Many of the older Southern & N&W workers feel this was the major change in operations. NS had to pander to the demands of the Conrail workers. This is one of the reasons that "High Hoods" are being cut down, as CR workers were not accustomed to High Nose/LHF operation, among other things the CR workers did not like.
Another fact you might have noticed is the Dash 9-40C/CW designations instead of the typical Dash 9-44CW. The reason for this is another SOU/N&W mentality. Management thought the extra 400 horsepower in the Dash 9-44CW was unnecessary. (NS liked multiples of 500 apparently?).NS continued this mentality with the ES40DC, the only one to purchase the model.(CSX originally ordered their ES40DCs as ES44DCs). NS did not have any locomotive that produced 4400 HP(sans the SD80MACs acquired in the CR merger)until GE forced them to buy ES44ACs.(GE did this to standardize production, note the nose light hole in NS ES44ACs, the most noticeable representation of this.)
Another fact you might have noticed is the Dash 9-40C/CW designations instead of the typical Dash 9-44CW. The reason for this is another SOU/N&W mentality. Management thought the extra 400 horsepower in the Dash 9-44CW was unnecessary. (NS liked multiples of 500 apparently?).NS continued this mentality with the ES40DC, the only one to purchase the model.(CSX originally ordered their ES40DCs as ES44DCs). NS did not have any locomotive that produced 4400 HP(sans the SD80MACs acquired in the CR merger)until GE forced them to buy ES44ACs.(GE did this to standardize production, note the nose light hole in NS ES44ACs, the most noticeable representation of this.)
Very interesting. One can imagine the conversation that must've gone down between NS equipment procurement and GE sales:
"We'd like to buy more ES40DCs please."
"No! We refuse to continue multiple production lines for a single model just to pander to your OCD needs! You will have your extra 400HP and find a way to use it!"
"We'd like to buy more ES40DCs please."
"No! We refuse to continue multiple production lines for a single model just to pander to your OCD needs! You will have your extra 400HP and find a way to use it!"
deadpoolmx55
LETS GO PENS!
Yep that sounds about right...now if they only did the same to CN...
--Bluewater, The Conrail Guru
ryanstrains
Moderator
I thought on the DC series locomotives all the engines were 4400 HP and the computer system just limited them to 4000.
Wearsprada
Oleksiy (content creator)
@Bluewater
Yup, I did order Conrail. Conrail ES44AC #8098 just came thru town leading a train by itself yesterday. Got it on my iPhone, but I don't know how to upload pictures from my iPhone to my computer. If you have the NS iPhone App, you can see a picture of her dated 6/16/2013.
Yup, I did order Conrail. Conrail ES44AC #8098 just came thru town leading a train by itself yesterday. Got it on my iPhone, but I don't know how to upload pictures from my iPhone to my computer. If you have the NS iPhone App, you can see a picture of her dated 6/16/2013.
@Wearsprada - I love that CBQ GP7. After it was CBQ#208 it was painted BN green with a new number of #1564 http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3330502. Yes I'm hoping to see your GP7 in BN green.
Jeff
Jeff
nikitka1988
Virtual Railroad Tycoon
Very nice BN unit, Alex! As always, you surprised me, man. Keep it up!:Y:
simulatortrain
jointed freaking rails
Love that Q geep Alex!
On the NS topic: NS did a study several years back which showed that 4000 hp DC units were more cost-efficient to operate and maintain. However as they continued to study them, they found that only applied for a period of about a decade.
On the NS topic: NS did a study several years back which showed that 4000 hp DC units were more cost-efficient to operate and maintain. However as they continued to study them, they found that only applied for a period of about a decade.
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