I give up & yay
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Who started this thread anyway....turns over page, oh yeah, hello iced 8383....I'm sure you have now learnt, as half the trainz community have used BOTH versions in the past, that there is a wealth of knowledge available with any future problems, ideas, etc. and my advice would be to buy all the versions....Well, they can't all be unworkable, surely....:hehe:
Cheerz. ex.
Cheerz. ex.
ICED8383,
What kind of system are you running TRS2004 on? Trainz takes a lot of computing power and memory. The Video card should be mid to high end card in order to enjoy Trainz. The minimum specs on the box are a joke unless you want only to run the built in routes. I am afraid that unless your computer is powerful enough you will have a bad experience with TRS2006 as well.
@Sourdough - I do not understand your last comment.:hehe:
I am running parallels desktop and if that doesn't work well use bootcamp
ICED8383,
What kind of system are you running TRS2004 on? Trainz takes a lot of computing power and memory. The Video card should be mid to high end card in order to enjoy Trainz. The minimum specs on the box are a joke unless you want only to run the built in routes. I am afraid that unless your computer is powerful enough you will have a bad experience with TRS2006 as well.
@Sourdough - I do not understand your last comment.:hehe:
well, since i have a mac, i got boot camp. it has twenty GB of hard drive space, and a good video card. Both are working fine and my hard drive is almost filled up. the computer is powerful, which is pretty good for a mac mini
well, since i have a mac, i got boot camp. it has twenty GB of hard drive space, and a good video card. Both are working fine and my hard drive is almost filled up. the computer is powerful, which is pretty good for a mac mini
Your hard disk space is very critical with a multi-tasking operating system such as Windows and programs. The system needs space reserved to save out memory to temporary space to give programs room to run. If there's no disk space, this will cause crashing and performance problems.
The other thing too is you were running the program in an emulated environment. Parallels is a great program, don't get me wrong because I use it as well, for virtual machines, but that's just it. These machines are virtual and the information needs to be translated from Windows to Apple-code inorder to run properly on your hardware even though it is running on an Intel-based system. The biggest issue with VMs is video performance and compatability because of the way the hardware needs to be accessed. There are many programs that will not run under a VM because of this issue including many of the high-end graphics programs such as 3Ds-Max and AutoCad.
Boot camp will only solve your problem if you have enough disk space for the same reason stated above. When you're through downloading stuff from the DLS, you'll have way more content than you currently have as disk space for. If you plan on running Trainz or any other programs for that matter on this machine, I recommend getting a second hard drive and configuring Boot Camp so that the alternate OS and applications are on their own hard drive so there is enough space to run properly.
John
well, since i have a mac, i got boot camp. it has twenty GB of hard drive space, and a good video card. Both are working fine and my hard drive is almost filled up. the computer is powerful, which is pretty good for a mac mini
actually, i thought i had a video card with the mini, but it actually is something built into the processor.
John,
i have thought of expanding the hard drive space at christmas time.
to about 250 GB,
and i'll probably use about 120 GB for boot camp.
that'll leave 130 GB for the mac mini.
Cheers,
Iced8383
It's the d**ned manual
Hello all,
IMHO the huge drawback to TRS06 has nothing to do with the program, but a lot with the manual. Most of the horror stories I read have to do with the interface of CMP with the DLS and the database feature. These are the least well explained items in the manual, but the two features an avid Trainzer is most likely to deal with on a regular basis.
For example, not long ago I asked the forum what the heck was going on when you get the "updating the Trainz database" message and how to tell when it was actually updating and when it was just stuck, since Task Manager tells you it is not responding regardless. We get those CMP-is-frozen threads all the time. Maybe it is and maybe it isn't. No one knew the answer!
Auran knows the answer. Why don't they tell us this kind of thing. I am running TRS06 and building a couple of modestly sophisticated routes, with no crashes or other problems, and with what is now a pretty feeble computer. It's great. But the best info I've gotten on what makes the thing tick has not been from the people who sold it to me, but from generous folks like you-all who really ought not be bothered with this type of thing.
Please do not get me wrong; I'm an Auran fan and can't wait for TRS09, but it seems to me that if they are going to put out a complicated program like '06, they should invest the time to produce a manual that will allow the user to understand what is going on off-stage, not just something that says that if you push this button, X happens. Almost always it happens, but sometimes it doesn't. I think it is the sometimes that the manual should address by making the workings apparent.
Thanks for indulging the Sunday rant and here's hoping that the new manual tells us a lot about what things do as well as what things are. :wave:
Bernie
Hello all,
IMHO the huge drawback to TRS06 has nothing to do with the program, but a lot with the manual. Most of the horror stories I read have to do with the interface of CMP with the DLS and the database feature. These are the least well explained items in the manual, but the two features an avid Trainzer is most likely to deal with on a regular basis.
For example, not long ago I asked the forum what the heck was going on when you get the "updating the Trainz database" message and how to tell when it was actually updating and when it was just stuck, since Task Manager tells you it is not responding regardless. We get those CMP-is-frozen threads all the time. Maybe it is and maybe it isn't. No one knew the answer!
Auran knows the answer. Why don't they tell us this kind of thing. I am running TRS06 and building a couple of modestly sophisticated routes, with no crashes or other problems, and with what is now a pretty feeble computer. It's great. But the best info I've gotten on what makes the thing tick has not been from the people who sold it to me, but from generous folks like you-all who really ought not be bothered with this type of thing.
Please do not get me wrong; I'm an Auran fan and can't wait for TRS09, but it seems to me that if they are going to put out a complicated program like '06, they should invest the time to produce a manual that will allow the user to understand what is going on off-stage, not just something that says that if you push this button, X happens. Almost always it happens, but sometimes it doesn't. I think it is the sometimes that the manual should address by making the workings apparent.
Thanks for indulging the Sunday rant and here's hoping that the new manual tells us a lot about what things do as well as what things are. :wave:
Bernie
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Try a seperate hard drive instead of an expanded drive space. With Boot Camp, does this run Windows as a seperate operating system, by rebooting and loading from disk, or does it run under a VM like Parallels does? This will make a difference in your video as well as the overall performance of the program.
Your video is actually not part of the CPU, is located on the motherboard as a seperate chipset that connects directly to the buss, and the system memory. A seperate video card is the best way to go because the built-in ones don't always work. As a suggestion, try changing the type of video that Trainz uses. Instead of using Open/GL, switch it to DirectX. In many cases, this fixes the video problems because many built-in video chipsets and video circuits have issues with Open/G where as DirectX is done more through software and can handle the emulation better.
John