IsambardKingdomBrunel
Joined June 2001
Equally simple solution, keep your money in your pocket
Exactly but don't whinge and moan, when you don't get the same access as subscribers :hehe:
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Equally simple solution, keep your money in your pocket
At this time there are 7 DLCs that can't be purchased although they show a purchase price in the Store (listed in order of issuing):
• BR HST - Inter-City 125 & Midland Pullman
• CNJ Blue Comet 2.0 - The Seashore's Finest Train
• British Model Railway [this one including the Class 11]
• Amtrak Superliners
• LNER Peppercorn Class A1 60163 Tornado
• Datsun Junction Model Railroad
• Budd RDC-1
Going back to the OP, I don't think he is whining about access per se, but he is saying that some assets are promised to non-subscribers after a certain amount of time but then appear to never be made available. So in essence he is claiming broken promises. I don't keep track of things that are not offered to me, so I have no idea, and I know some things are specifically given only to early adaptors and such, and I would have no idea what timeline N3V has planned for early preview assets to hit the mainstream, so I am not really commenting either way. It is just the way I read the OP.
Exactly but don't whinge and moan, when you don't get the same access as subscribers :hehe:
Bolivar's initial point is still valid despite the numerous attempts to divert attention from it. He is a TRS22 user that wants to buy DLC packages and N3V will not sell them to him. He wants to know why. Seems like a fair question to me. I suspect that the items he wants are not ready to go on sale yet.
As HPL notes, above, there are now a number of items of content that are bundled-in with the subscription and are not available to the full user-base as genuine DLC:
• BR HST - Inter-City 125 & Midland Pullman
• CNJ Blue Comet 2.0 - The Seashore's Finest Train
• British Model Railway [this one including the Class 11]
• Amtrak Superliners
• LNER Peppercorn Class A1 60163 Tornado
• Datsun Junction Model Railroad
• Budd RDC-1
And as I posted immediately after HPL's post, these items are in the latest newsletter as new content available initially (and that seems to be a point of contention but with no supporting evidence as yet) only for subscribers.
So it seems that the complaint(s) come down to the fact that subscribers, as well as getting additional program features such as Surveyor 2.0 and, in the next iteration, HD Terrain, are also getting *free* additional content that is not available, for a set period at least, to non-subscribers. I emphasise the *free* because subscribers are really paying for this, admittedly at a great discount, in their subscription.
If I was a cynic I would probably believe that this is simply a case of "sour grapes" or "envy". But, as I actually know for a fact, all of us Trainzers are totally beyond that sort of petty juvenile behaviour so it must be something else that is creating this angst. I am still awaiting enlightenment.
It does not feel like a reward to have to pay an eternal subscription for items of content that are essential for the era you are modelling. It feels like blackmail.
I disagree that nothing of value can be gained from threads like this. Well reasoned posts that present opinions on our business model do help guide future decisions.
I’ll try and be a model forum member, just like IKB.