Help with hogs terrain???

[chris300173]

HI, all I'm new to the trnz commuinty and I've search for two days trying to find as much as I can about hogs textures and terrain. I've downloaded the Evansville,IN route in DLS and it requite hogs to see terrain. then I've downloaded the hogs utilities and the Miroderm progams and nothing is showing other than the lines for the tracks, roads, and rivers. I've imported the hog though the DLS. my question is: is this all it shows or am I missing something, or do I have to chop the maps my self?

thanks in advance for the help.

 

[seeseeme]

The main things a DEM based layout will show are the HOG textures you mentioned and the actual terrain. It will not show you where a Bridge or Tunnel for example should be. It only shows a colour line for the Tracks, Roads, and Rivers (mainly).

I am not sure why you needed to download the Miroderm programs or the Hog Utilities, all you need are the Hog Textures and to know what they mean.

Basically, Red is for Roads, Teal is for Tracks and Blue is for Rivers/Water.

Hope this helps,

Craig

 

[chris300173]

Thanks seeseeme that's what I was wondering about, I guess the other stuff I downlaoded is for if you what to create one yourself....and i'm not ready to tackle that job yet.

 

[seeseeme]

That's about right, I once looked at creating my own. After about an hour or two I still had no idea where to really start from so I gave up :hehe:. I tired to learn about GMax which you can use to create content, I last longer this time but the headache got worse so I gave that idea up as well :hehe:.

Now I work on Layouts and in some cases the History behind the area I am working on. Researching a route can be very rewarding, as well as time consuming.

That's part of the reason why I admire the content creators that we have in Trainz, there work and the amount of time they put into their creations is amazing.

One of the things about Trainz is that it can cover a wide range of interest, those who just want to run Trainz, those who want to create layouts and those who just love creating content just for the challenge, those who want to try a bit of everything and well the list may be endless.

Craig

 

[cascaderailroad]

If you download a DEM (made by someone like Fishlipsatwork) anyone, and you, will see the terrain (hills & valleys). But if you don't see the 5 colored lines (black, blue, teal, red, agua) you need to download HOG textures. HOG textures will give you (some) of the basic lines for roads, rails & rivers, nothing else.

Unless you want to actually make terrain DEM's, which is an extremely entailed set of multiple map making processes, you would also have to take lengthly tutorials on using that difficult software.

 

[chris300173]

yah, I seen the lengthy tutorial for the microderms program. after read a few thread you put out the google earth seems(sounds) a little easier. I may try that some time for the route that runs through my town, and connects to the evansville route that I DL.

thanks again for all of you that help with the questions I had.

Chris

 

[Tokkyu40]

I like TerraServer. http://www.terraserverusa.com/
If you're modelling the USA it has old topographic maps from the '70s that show railways, including some that have been pulled up since then.

Claude

 

[geophil]

yah, I seen the lengthy tutorial for the microderms program. after read a few thread you put out the google earth seems(sounds) a little easier. I may try that some time for the route that runs through my town, and connects to the evansville route that I DL.
Chris

DEMs on one side and "Google Earth" or any other aerial imagery and any cartography map on the other side are not the same. DEMs tell you the elevation/height of a particular point, defined by its coordinates. Aerial imagery/cartographic maps tell you what's on the surface for that particular point. So these are two different types of information. (Using contour lines on a topographic map you could create your own DEM in Trainz if you have nothing else to do). You will need both for a prototypical route. When assessing tools to help you with the geo data check their ability to process both types of data and to put the two different sources together.