Route building help

[PhilChorusch01]

This is really frustrating me!

I am trying to begin building my own routes but I can't figure out why this is happening? The railway station height above sea level for Newcastle NSW is 1.2 meters, I just don't understand! When I click on get vertex height for the tracks on the left and right side, I am getting a reading of 11.90 "left" and 10.14 "right" fair enough, which is completely wrong! I have used crap Australian data from https://viewfinderpanoramas.org/Coverage map viewfinderpanoramas_org3.htm and imported that data into TransDEM and been using this same data for years, probably what has always been the cause of quitting route building many times since trying to build routes in MSTS.. Is there any better data out there that is 100% free and downloadable without logging in?? Or is there any way to use the terrain from google earth? I know the google earth terrain is perfect if I could use it! Any ideas please??

 

[sister]

of course you can use google datas together with TransDEM for Trainz. You will find something about it directly on the Geophil site or maybe also here around in the forum. Just look for TransDEM thread

 

[PhilChorusch01]

of course you can use google datas together with TransDEM for Trainz. You will find something about it directly on the Geophil site or maybe also here around in the forum. Just look for TransDEM thread

This issue is not TransDEM related, but I do appreciate your reply.

The problem I am having, is setting the track at the correct altitude "Height above sea level". The railway station's altitude height above sea level is 1.2 meters, in google earth it is shown as being from 2 to 3 meters. But regardless inputting either 1.2 meters, 2 meters or 3 meters I am still getting the issue with the hole in the terrain

I am thinking that I need to find better terrain data for all of Australia which I have no idea how to convert TIFF files to load into TransDEM, as TransDEM will not load the TIFF files I am trying to import despite it allowing TIFF files to be imported.. Very confusing why! So, I am stuck using the rubbish hgt format 3" rubbish that continues to have more problems using heights of trees and buildings which I have no idea how to fix manually.

Or, the only thing I can think of... Does Trainz use generic meters, like MSTS uses generic grades?

 

[pware]

I know the google earth terrain is perfect if I could use it! Any ideas please??

I used TransDEM many years ago but decided that it was far too complicated for me. I use the data from Google Earth for all my non-fictional route development BUT you would not like my method.

It is a painstakingly slow manual transfer of terrain heights from Google Earth to Trainz and it takes forever to complete just a few kms. My current project of 280kms has taken years but I am never in a hurry and I actually find the process very therapeutic - a hangover from the days (decades) when I was working in a very stressful job. Sad to say, it kept me sane.

I continue the practise today as I am too lazy to change to something new. I would not recommend my method for creators who want to churn out a new route every month (or quicker).

I believe that if you pay a yearly licence fee to Google you can get access to their data but that is a cost that I could never justify and it would take away all the "fun".

My contribution to your question.

 

[PhilChorusch01]

I used TransDEM many years ago but decided that it was far too complicated for me. I use the data from Google Earth for all my non-fictional route development BUT you would not like my method.

It is a painstakingly slow manual transfer of terrain heights from Google Earth to Trainz and it takes forever to complete just a few kms. My current project of 280kms has taken years but I am never in a hurry and I actually find the process very therapeutic - a hangover from the days (decades) when I was working in a very stressful job. Sad to say, it kept me sane.

I continue the practise today as I am too lazy to change to something new. I would not recommend my method for creators who want to churn out a new route every month (or quicker).

I believe that if you pay a yearly licence fee to Google you can get access to their data but that is a cost that I could never justify and it would take away all the "fun".

My contribution to your question.

You're right! I don't like your method HAHAHA I just wouldn't have the patience to be honest

 

[sister]

Anyway to fix an unwanted hole in the terrain you may give the tracks the correct height and then use the S2.0 features of the "smooth terreain under the track" with a range of 40mts so to have the hole filled

 

[PhilChorusch01]

Anyway to fix an unwanted hole in the terrain you may give the tracks the correct height and then use the S2.0 features of the "smooth terreain under the track" with a range of 40mts so to have the hole filled

I know, or use Ctrl + Z to undo.

The hole in the terrain is created by me setting the "railway station altitude height above sea level" to 1.2 meters which supposed to be the correct height for the railway station... The problem is the hole!

I prefer using surveyor classic, 2.0 is just a bonus to delete multiple baseboards and other task that's difficult using surveyor classic.