Having trouble configuring multi industry new

CaseyTheJones

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I have configured other "Multi Industry New" to load 40' containers and it works fine.

I'm trying to configure this "Multi Industry New" to load Wheat. This is the only product that I need it to handle. I only need it to load, not unload. I would like it to have an unlimited supply or the most it is allowed to have. It doesn't seem to be working for me. What should I have under each tab?

QUEUES:

Queue #1
Product: Wheat
Size: ???
Tonnes: ???
Waybill %: ??? is already set at 80%


TRACKS:

Wheat is selected
Mode: Load into vehicle
Queue: queue #1


PROCESSES:

I believe I only need to use the one to the right of the red arrow because I am NOT unloading anything. Am I correct?
Duration: ???
Start enabled: is set to "true"
Produce: ???


PRODUCTS:
Wheat: is set to "Tonnes"
Vehicle is set to the basic BN grain hopper that I am using.

The BN grain hoppers are configured for wheat and are empty. I just can't figure out what I am doing wrong. Appreciate any help, thanks.
 
I think I have this figured out. Not sure if I did it the right way but it works. I imagined that wheat would be measured by weight but it wasn't working that way. I changed it to "items" instead of "tonnes" and then played with the settings and here it is...

Queues
Size: 600,000
Waybill: 80%
Items: 600,000

Tracks
queue1
Load into vehicle

Processes
Produce: 50,000 items
Duration: 1

Products
Vehicle: None
Load size: Items

Again, not sure if this is the correct way but it works and does what I want it to do. It loads endless cars and stays full. Maybe this will be helpful to someone else or perhaps everyone already knows this stuff. At any rate...carry on.:D
 
Thank you Sir CaseyTheJones, I've been working on Multi Industry's too, and have been trying to figure why some work great other's not so much,,,,This is the key Question I was trying to resolve.....Your permission, I'm copying an pasting to a text file for use on my Industry I setup........
 
I found this from another Poster and this might be of interest to you.

http://www.auran.com/games/gamefiles/trainz/tutorial2.html

Multi-Industry New Tutorial

Click here to download example map to use with this tutorial.

The new Multi-Industry is a completely flexible industry type that you can set up to act like a grain silo, a cattle yard or anything your imagination requires. (Of course you may have to download a new commodity from the Download Station or create your own). You can set inputs, outputs, queue sizes, waybill settings and more. Once you understand the power of this short piece of track, you can set up literally dozens of industries on the one route.

In this Tutorial we're going to walk you through the process of making furniture. You will require 3 industries - a forest to produce logs, a lumber mill to turn the logs into lumber and a furniture factory that takes your lumber and uses in the process of making furniture. In this tutorial we haven't modelled the furniture part of this process, but nothing stops you from creating a commodity called "Furniture" (see the Content Creation Guide for instructions how to do this). For now we need to imagine that the furniture is created and taken away by road transport.

You can download an Multi Industry Tutorial Map from Trainz Exchange which shows you a working example of this process. Create a new map in Surveyor and place 3 Multi-Industry New objects (found in the Objects Menu). Join them all with track. Leave sufficient track at each end to have a train run through the industry and out the other side. Place some appropriate objects next to each track segment which makes them a lot easier to identify in Driver. Place your favourite loco on the track about 50 meters away from the first multi-industry track (it is generally best not to place trains AT industries when starting SessionsCouple up three log wagons to your loco (did you know that you can load these in Surveyor by clicking on the ? icon in the Trainz Menu?)

- Once you have your track connected, scenery objects placed and train on the track, we're ready to begin customizing our industries. First we'll create a Consumption Industry.
- Click on the ? icon in the Objects Menu and then L-Click on the first industry.
- Name the first industry Forest (and you can add a description as well).
- Click on Queue, then click the + icon in Queue 1
- Choose Logs from the list
- Click on Products and change Vehicle None to Log Wagon
- Click on Tonnes twice to change it to Items (note that the Load size is 6 items. This is because the Log Wagon is configured to hold 6 logs).
- Go Back to Queues and click on the 0 items and set the Initial Product Amount to 22
- Choose Tracks, click on the + icon and add the product Logs. Change the mode to Load into vehicle
- Now click on the processes. Because this industry produces Logs, click on the second + icon (the production side of the process) and add Logs.
- Set the Produce items to 1 and leave the Duration as 30 (seconds). This means that the industry will produce 1 new Log every 30 seconds.
- Next we're going to create a Production industry - our Furniture Factory.
- Click on the ? icon and then click on Multi Industry new track piece.
- Change the name to Furniture Factory.
- Click on Queue, then click the + icon in Queue 1
- Choose Lumber from the list
- Click on Products and change Vehicle None to Log Wagon
- Click on Tonnes twice to change it to Items
- Go Back to Queues and click on the 0 items and set the Initial Product Amount to 31
- Choose Tracks, click on the + icon and add the product Lumber. Change the mode to Unload from vehicle
- Now click on the processes. Because this industry consumes Lumber, click on the first + icon (the consume side of the process) and add lumber. Set the Consume items to 1 and the Duration to 90 (seconds). This means that the industry will use up 1 items of lumber every 90 seconds.
- Go back to the Queues menu and change the waybill amount to 75%. This means that the industry will produce a waybill when the stock drops 75% from full capacity (i.e. it reaches 25% of capacity)
- Lastly we're going to create a multi-process industry - the Lumber Mill. This is a dual product industry and is set up much like the other two industries, except this time we have two queues and two items in our Process.
- Click on the remaining Multi Industry and name it Lumber Mill.
- Add a short description (which appears in Driver in the View Details window when you click on the Industry)
- Click on Queue, then click the + icon in Queue 1
- Choose Logs from the list
- Click the + icon in Queue 2 and choose Lumber from the list
- Click on Products and click on the Logs icon
- Change Vehicle None to Log Wagon
- Click on Tonnes twice to change it to Items
- Repeat for Lumber
- Go Back to Queues and click on the Log icon
- Click on 0 items and set the Initial Product Amount to 12
- Next click on the Lumber icon and set the initial amount to 8
- Choose Tracks, click on the + icon and add the product Logs. Change the mode to Unload from vehicle
- Click on the + icon again, add the product Lumber and change the mode to Load into Vehicle
- Now click on the processes. Because this industry produces Lumber from Logs, click on the first + icon and choose Logs
- Change the Comsume amount to 2
- Then click on the second + icon (the production side of the process) and add Lumber.
- Leave the Produce items as 1 and leave the Duration as 30 (seconds). This means that the industry will consume 2 Logs every 30 seconds and produce 1 new Lumber every 30 seconds.
- You should now be ready to start your Driver Session and send you loco from one industry to the next. R-Click on each industry track to see what levels of stock remain and how production is progressing. For instructions on how to set up an order list that has your Driver automatically carry out all these tasks for you, please read the Driver Setup Tutorial.
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If possible I would recommend using the "JR Multi Industry" where you can as that one allows you to set up an industry so you can decouple from the consist and it will do a timed load/unload while you go off and do other things.
This asset also plays very nicely with ExTrains Manager, which I find invaluable when planning AI.

I have been changing a lot of MIN to JR MI in the routes I download as it gives much more flexibility when setting up AI to run in sessions.
 
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Be careful of “ExTrains Manager” in Trainz, as it will only work if the number of industries, including stations, is below 120. It is being looked into to see if it can be fixed. Works great in TS12.
 
I agree that ExM has some problems like the timeout that happens when you try to view rolling stock and now the one you have mentioned (which I haven't come across yet) but they appear to be few and far between.
I would love to see an update on that asset but all things take time and I guess this one will eventually be updated or replaced by something better. In the mean time I find it invaluable for setting up AI.
 
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:D Thanks for info "JR Multi Industry" and ExM, I'll have to try it out...So what I've been doing with HarborMaster Route (philskene is the Route builder) is add/change/modify the Route to my taste, and in doing so, I have several problems with Game Crashing, or not doing what I wanted it to do with the different multi industry, a big part of it, I'm learning about limitations of Multi Industry new, and my laptop's slow video card, can't change it, it's builtin.......GGGGRRRR.

:confused: But besides that, I'm new at doing these industry sites, things like you can't use 5 types of loads game will bust out a Red Bug error, so I have learned to keep it at 3....Using Item rather than Tons for weight (learned that one from this forum) Thank you very much....

:udrool: Below are pictures of my 44 Tonner pulling a completed Goods Train with lots of different Industrial and Farm equipment. Only took me 3 hrs of back and forth Surveyor and Quick drive to get it to work right.......So each week, I learn a little bit more on what loads go with what cars. I also resized the pictures small to 960x540 resolution, hopefully that's a good size for the forum. I also have another Route Called Harbor Module (downloaded from DSL) which I plan on merging with HarborMaster route......I just need make sure I merge in a way it makes sense........And unfortunately I have to delete all my trains off the harbor route before I do it, little secret I learned from one of you folks in the forum, for what ever reason, it allows much less chance for your merge to go crazy.......Works for me, I've done a lot of Merges on IPAD with Trainz2 before I came into TS12 World.........

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