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thegrindre

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First let me say that I have no intentions of distributing anyone else's work. What I do is modify their texture files to suit my own tastes on my own layout for my own pleasure only. So, any pics I show here might contain your work with my textures on them but it is just for show and not distribution.

OK, that said, now comes the question:
If I where to upload my route for everybody to use, will my modified textures be uploaded also.??? I don't understand the uploading process yet.
 
If you have made the textures yourself, (your own creation) then you would have to upload those textures as well. If however you are using other textures that are inbuilt or downloaded Textures then that would be fine. The route would show as it does on your computer.

Regards
 
I'm still a little confused.

Let's say I download a red house. I install it on my route, access the red texture file and change it to old wooden ship lap siding. Will this new texture go with the route I upload??? Or, will the original red house have to be downloaded when you get my route???
 
Gandalf is right and you'll have to upload the retextured house with a new kuid. You're using someone else's mesh, so you'll need their permission unless the license in the config gives you permission already. Even if the license gives you permission, it's nice to give the original creator credit for the original mesh.
 
...and don't forget that if the red house is placed on a modified route (or layout), and the route/layout uploaded then you would also require permission from the creator of the original route.

You only need permission if you upload or otherwise distribute the altered content. You can do with it as you like without permission for your own use.

Andy :)
 
Wait a minute everybody. I'm still not understanding all this. So, let's say I build a route, (which I am doing), I add track and ground textures and houses and want to share it with everybody. What gets uploaded??? Everything I've added along with all my altered textures??? Does the upload process copy everything from my PC weather it's my content or not??? Do I need permission to use the track too???

I'm sooo confused...
 
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They have to edit the config file or it shows up like it would if you did no editing, (I Think.) Um... HELP! I'm baffled.
 
thegrindre said:
Wait a minute everybody. I'm still not understanding all this. So, let's say I build a route, (which I am doing), I add track and ground textures and houses and want to share it with everybody. What gets uploaded??? Everything I've added along with all my altered textures??? Does the upload process copy everything from my PC weather it's my content or not??? Do I need permission to use the track too???

I'm sooo confused...
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If you build a route in surveyor and want to upload that route, then all that gets uploaded is information about that route. Everybody's version of trainz is able to read that information and out comes your route on there PC. If you have created an object (like a house, yourself) you will need to upload that info as well to the Download Station.

When I have built a route in the past I have only used content that is in-built to Trainz so if you download it you do not need anything else. the route would run because you already have any content I have used in making the route.

I hope that is clear for you.

Regards
 
axe is correct, the route you upload contains all the information as to what you've put onto the baseboards, when others download the route to their computers, built in content will be there... any content on the download station (that your route contains) is also installed (or should be!) ....
Any asset you've retextured and not uploaded will generate a missing content message and create mass confusion and pandemonium amongst us Trainz folk :p
 
I have a question for the grindre and all of you. I would like to know how to change some of the textures on my own route to the low poly ones used on the Marias Pass route. We used to be able to change them easily with Taffweb"s trains objects but can't do that with CMP.
Can I just change the kuid number in my route texture to another kuid that I like and that would change the texture to the new one???
 
Hmmm - it still sounds like there is some confusion here....

If you change the textures of an item you download, without making a copy under a new KUID number, then anyone else downloading the route will see the original, not your textures. Unless you change the KUID there will not be a missing asset error. When most folks re-skin, they make a copy of the original, and give the copy their own KUID number before changing textures; if this re-numbered item was placed on your route, you would have to upload it specifically (with permission) for anyone else to see it.

Hopefully that's clear...

Paul
 
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