Forming Cuttings

[Wight2]

I have recently viewed excellent videos of the Welsh Highland Railway on YouTube. One of particular interest is a train proceeding through a rock face cutting. The cutting appears to be about 3 metres wide with near vertical sides.

Is there a method to replicate this type of cutting with Trainz ?

 

[ray_whiley]

Yes - by making a spline with the rock face sides and a surface at ground level, placing it in a terrain cutting with sloping side so that the ground surface covers the unwanted slopes. See my 'Station LL wall' Kuid 275817:37030 on the DLS for an example, although this is a wall-sided cutting rather than a rock-faced one.

Ray

 

[wholbr]

Hi Everybody.
The way that I've done this in the past is to create in topology a hill to the height that you want in front of the track that you are laying. Let's say the height of the hill is 20 or so feet, about the height that you would use a cutting rather than the tunnel.

Them for arguments sake lets say the ground in front of the hill is 0 feet under the track. You just set the height in topology to zero and the selection to the width that you want and just drive the zero level height through the center of the hill or where you wish your track to go. Then lay the track through the cutting.

If you them want to lay a gradient on the track through the cutting just raise the end of the track to the height that you want and use the smooth tool to raise the ground under the track.. If the cutting is a bit wider than the track being laid the ground either side of the track will remain at the original height which would be zero. However, this can produce the effect of having drainage either side of the track which would be there in real life anyway.

You can then decorate the sides of your cutting with rock, shrubbery, grass or a mixture which is often the situation in real cuttings.I would post some pictures of the cuttings I've created for my Devon branch lines But I do not know how to do that. (Might make the subject of another thread)

Hope this helps.
Bill

 

[ray_whiley]

There is a 'sticky' on making and posting screenshots in the screenshots section of this forum - it will guide you through the whole process.

Ray

 

[stovepipe]

The problem I've found in this method is that it is difficult to get textures to look right on a near vertical section of ground if it is a deep cutting. Not impossible, but difficult.

As an alternative, there are a few rockface splines you can use - have a look at VicTrainz work on the DLS. Apologies, I gave the wrong name over on UK Trainz.

Charles

 

[big_b]

I have recently viewed excellent videos of the Welsh Highland Railway on YouTube. One of particular interest is a train proceeding through a rock face cutting. The cutting appears to be about 3 metres wide with near vertical sides.

Is there a method to replicate this type of cutting with Trainz ?

Cliff face splines but it takes time setting them up

http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=28207

Dave

 

[lewisner]

If you look on the DLS for "Stone Walled Riverside Spline" KUID 78193:41502
it looks nearly perfect as a dark, damp cutting.I'll post a photo tomorrow of a cutting I have done with it.

 

[Wight2]

Thank you for all your help and advice. I will work through the various suggestions and see if I can produce a narrow rock faced cutting.

 

[Wight2]

Lewisner

The "Stone Walled Riverside Spline" is perfect for the required cutting. I have had a trail run and the result looks as good as the video.

A very small clearance between the train and the rock face has been achieved.

Thank you for your help.

 

[lewisner]

"Here's one I made earlier"! With this one (Claxheugh Cutting on the Sunderland - Penshaw line) I had the additional problem that it was fairly deep so I had to have the ground level below the track in some places which left visible gaps beside the track.I overcame this by laying splines of "Gravel Stones 4m" just under the track and it works pretty well.

Here's the real cutting in 1989, 13 years after the tracks were torn up; there was a happy ending because the line was reopened in 2002 as the Tyne & Wear Metro South Hylton extension.