Then raise the price of an FCT or build it into the software until you're no longer operating at a loss.
End of Support for Anything below TS12
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Then raise the price of an FCT or build it into the software until you're no longer operating at a loss.
Drifting off topic, RRSignal; you being able to obtain the spare part from outside Apple is the equivalent of people using old versions downloading content from outside repositories like USLW and TPR. It would be unreasonable to expect Apple to still provide parts for an Apple II, just like it would to expect N3V to continue allowing outdated content to be uploaded to the DLS.
Please, try to be objective.
I'm surprised to see this coming from you. But I fully expect another pitchfork crowd to start attacking N3V because how dare they raise prices.
Please, try to be objective.
I'm surprised to see this coming from you. But I fully expect another pitchfork crowd to start attacking N3V because how dare they raise prices.
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Apple didn't make the part, just like N3V didn't make the content. For your logic to work fully, all the DLS content except Auran's would have to have to have been originally sourced from external sites. Which it's not.
Gee, you've and other advocates of restricting DLS uploads don't have a problem telling the rest of us to just "buy another version." Hey, N3V needs money to run, right? If they don't make enough money, they'll go out of business. So, you shouldn't have a problem paying more.
Funny how people get when the shoe's on the other foot.
Besides, if N3V is really taking a loss, then that's the most surefire way back to profitability.
Exactly what are you getting at here?
I've no problems with FCT prices going up although I can certainly see the anti-N3V posts like this coming from certain people:
amigacooke
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Surely this amount of horse flogging (even if it's dead) must amount to animal cruelty in most countries?
cascaderailroad
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Just following your car comparison to it's logical conclusion, that's all.
It's no biggie. Personally, I'd rather pay more once for great quality than pay smaller amounts many times over for junk. That's why I mentioned upthread that I'd rather have buy a quality dryer once rather than have to buy 4 over the same period - spending far more money, creating more waste, etc.
It doesn't make any sense, sorry. Version support entails not just Trainz software but asset builds as well. If they're phasing out TS10, it makes perfect sense to stop supporting build 2.9. Doesn't matter who made it or where it came from, if after September it's not build 3.5 it's not getting on the DLS.
N3V is also keeping existing old-version assets available to all even after the EOL, so no problems there either.
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Don't know from where you got the idea I wouldn't be ok if FCT prices went up, I've got both my shoes on and they fit just fine thanks.
Unfortunately certain people around here don't think this way. I'm sure you of all people would've realized that by now.
Well, we can agree on that!
Same here.
Cheerio,
Nicholas
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cascaderailroad
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In the case ones parents are paying for the purchase ... it' absolutely no problem !
I just love higher prices !
Oh, you just love to kick up dirt and stir the pot, don't you.
I hold a job at the country's biggest media conglomerate and am paying a quarter of the household utilities. I haven't taken a single cent in pocket money from my parents for two years now. It's not nice throwing your assumptions around and spewing nonsense, please stop doing that.
I hold a job at the country's biggest media conglomerate and am paying a quarter of the household utilities. I haven't taken a single cent in pocket money from my parents for two years now. It's not nice throwing your assumptions around and spewing nonsense, please stop doing that.
Perhaps because your comparison wasn't a very poor one. If you want to make a case against manufacturers supporting their products, don't use as an example one of the best-supported product by their manufacturers and OEMs.
No, it really doesn't. All that does it limit the number of people that can consume those assets, those that will upload new assets, the total pool of assets, and, in effect, the number of customers.
If you were trying to make an ironic joke that was a very good one. Apple provides 1 year of support for it's products, Microsoft - only 90 days for Xbox. Yes, the $500 game console. N3V gave us 4-6 years software lifespan on a $30 game. Food for thought.
Seriously though, I don't even think you understood your own analogy. Here it is in simpler words:
Take your Apple II to an Apple Store today and request for support, then come back and tell us how long it took for them to laugh you out of the room.
The only people it is limiting are the ones who are using out-of-date software (read: people from whom N3V is not earning a single cent). Whether you like it or not, this is a business decision that is steeped in financial logic.
Yes, and I shall now be called a sheep/fanboy/insert derogatory verb for pointing that out.
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Gary_Evans
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A little off thread but Cascader's note rattled some of my senile brain cells. I remember when 2006 was released the Trainz community was split down the middle. Some of us could not get it to function while others had no trouble and referred to those who had problems as idiots. When a poll was taken half favored 2006 and the other half didn't like it. TPR refused to endorse it because it was "unstable". Anyway, there's always something to inflame several Trainzers.
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The joke here is your analogy. You should have picked a better one.
As for Apple, Apple had decent support back in the day. Nevertheless, I have no problem getting parts from the same OEMs that Apple used.
Actually, we're the ones paying for it, same as you. I even have a lifetime FCT. If you feel you haven't contributed enough, I'm sure they'll take a donation. However, that would require putting one's money where their mouth is.
ryanstrains
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Folks, it's not okay to to ramble and go off on other members, you are free to discuss things like this but you have to do so in a civilized manner. I see this thread going nowhere so I'm locking it.
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