Does anyone ever get a response when reporting a post?

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gus1911

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There's a vehicle here on the Forum for reporting posts, for whatever reason - be they unusually helpful and warrant special notice, or they are offensive or disruptive. Have any of you ever received any kind of response from these phantom people after sending a message? Such as: Thanks? We received your msg? Please don't bother us, we're busy with more important matters? Go play outside on the Interstate? There's no one home here?

Does "report a post" really exist?
 
No responce; but I have gotten posts removed, threads deleted or closed by using it. So there is someone on the other end reading them (multipul people actually). The Report Post feature is supposed to be used for reporting posts that violate the Code of Conduct.

peter
 
I would imagine that these forums are operated similarly to most forums in that very few forums actually inform the reporter of any action taken over a reported post. Often, depending on what the forums policy is, any not obvious action or warning would be confidential between the offending poster and the moderators.
It's not normal to report anything other than breaches of Code of Conduct.
And yes reporting posts that do actually break the COC does work.

Believe me this forum is like paradise compared to where I used to moderate!
 
So, you've had experience in these matters. Interesting.

I've reported posts that violate the code of conduct Big Time, and have never gotten a response, or any action on the posts. There's a member here who habitually violates the code of conduct with sarcastic, demeaning and belittling comments to the most innocent of posts, and nothing is ever done. His posts are ignored for the most part, probably because he's about as popular with everyone here as a snake at a garden party.

The following paragraph is number 13 in "The Code of Conduct." It's pretty simple to understand, and really doesn't require much interpretation. It should be easy, really. Note the highlighted part below. This member in question never contributes anything - he posts merely for the enjoyment of belittling or insulting someone.

"Submitting messages that are inflammatory and made simply with the intent to provoke disruption to the forum or chat room and encourage, incite or continue "flame" messages. "Trolling" and baiting will not be tolerated. Messages that are disruptive and destructive in character will not be tolerated. Flaming is deemed to include insulting, personally directed criticisms and/or messages that include comments aimed to incite anger. Trolling is deemed to include messages aimed to incite disruption or stir up trouble. For example, posting to a thread or starting a thread without the intent to contribute positive suggestions or comments. Instead, the aim is negative and disruptive comments."

Is there more than one meaning for: "posting to a thread without the intent to contribute positive suggestions?"
 
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gus1911 said:
So, you've had experience in these matters. Interesting.

I've reported posts that violate the code of conduct Big Time, and have never gotten a response, or any action on the posts. There's a member here who habitually violates the code of conduct with sarcastic, demeaning and belittling comments to the most innocent of posts, and nothing is ever done. His posts are ignored for the most part, probably because he's about as popular with everyone here as a snake at a garden party.

The following paragraph is number 13 in "The Code of Conduct." It's pretty simple to understand, and really doesn't require much interpretation. It should be easy, really. Note the highlighted part below. This member in question never contributes anything - he posts merely for the enjoyment of belittling or insulting someone.

"Submitting messages that are inflammatory and made simply with the intent to provoke disruption to the forum or chat room and encourage, incite or continue "flame" messages. "Trolling" and baiting will not be tolerated. Messages that are disruptive and destructive in character will not be tolerated. Flaming is deemed to include insulting, personally directed criticisms and/or messages that include comments aimed to incite anger. Trolling is deemed to include messages aimed to incite disruption or stir up trouble. For example, posting to a thread or starting a thread without the intent to contribute positive suggestions or comments. Instead, the aim is negative and disruptive comments."

Is there more than one meaning for: "posting to a thread without the intent to contribute positive suggestions?"
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The moderators do a very reasonable balancing job most of the time. I don't agree with every action they take or don't take but the forum runs fairly smoothly and they don't get much thanks for giving up their free time to moderate.

If all posts were only positive suggestions or comments the forums would be a much poorer place in my view. Misunderstandings and problems do arise and its better sometimes to let some of the frustration out in a post then the issues can be explained or remedial action taken.

Cheerio John
 
gus1911 said:
There's a member here who habitually violates the code of conduct with sarcastic, demeaning and belittling comments to the most innocent of posts, and nothing is ever done. His posts are ignored for the most part, probably because he's about as popular with everyone here as a snake at a garden party.
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Sorry Gus, I can take a hint...:(
 
Unless the posts cause other posts or the entire thread to go off topic they are generally just ignored. There was a time here when waffling (posting off topic) was more accepted. You could even earn a special Avatar (you couldn't pick your avatar then, it was assigned based on your posts) that indicated that you waffled to much. To my knowledge only one or two people ever got that car.

peter

PS: Speaking of the old avatars; here is the listing of what you got for however many posts you made:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060216...004/forum/misc.php?s=&action=faq&page=1#ranks
 
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Hi All

I thought I would just drop in to say that we try to keep everybody happy all the time.

Cheers :)

AJ
 
Wow, a link to part of the old forums! I wonder if you can actually browse the old forums and posts at the Internet Archive Wayback Machine, besides that part. :udrool: :p :D

Regards.
 
Some of the old forums still remain at the Wayback Machine!

And the answer is...

YES!!!!!!!!!! :eek: :udrool:

Well, partially...

While some of the forum threads are still on there for viewing, a lot of them seem to be gone (i.e. they are not archived). :'(

However, when browsing the list of all of the pages in the http://forums.auran.com/TRS2004/forum/* range at http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://forums.auran.com/TRS2004/forum/*, it says there are 25,626 results, so there apparently must be a bundle of threads on there. Note, however, that some of those results are for the Edit Post page! ;)

Here is a link to the main page of the old forums (!): http://web.archive.org/web/20060509032745/http://forums.auran.com/TRS2004/forum/default.htm

Below is a screenshot of the top of the old sticky thread "CMP and the "Register Serial" message" at the top of the old Trainz Support forum. This is one of the threads that I clicked, and it happens to load the first page at least! The second page and the third page, along with the last page, are not archived, however. :'( I did not check the other pages.

Here is the quick link to that thread: http://web.archive.org/web/20060509...m/TRS2004/forum/showthread.php?threadid=95776

Note that all of this is the May 9, 2006 archived forums.

Oh, and do not try to post anything at the old forums, of course! ;) I do not even know if such a thing would work, but it might cause problems if it did work. ;)

Regards.


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Geez man!! Don't quit your day job! Hmmmm. I see you're retired. Well, don't venture out into the real world again. :D
 
AJ_Fox said:
Hi All

I thought I would just drop in to say that we try to keep everybody happy all the time.

AJ
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The job of a moderator is a thankless job, for sure. But at times, the decision that should be made appears to be quite easy.

When a member's posts are only intended to demean and belittle another member, he's already quite happy. No need to make him happier by dignifying his comments, and further embarrass the object of his sniping by allowing the rest of the forum members to read it. Not good.

And if the individual being belittled responds with a bit of anger, he's the one who gets reprimanded or warned. Not good either. Worse, in fact.

I've been around this forum for a long time, and there's just one person here whose only purpose for posting is to agitate, belittle and demean other members. And you and I both know who it is.

What's the purpose of a Code of Conduct if it's not enforced? Might as well remove it.
 
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gus1911 said:
The job of a moderator is a thankless job, for sure. But at times, the decision that should be made appears to be quite easy.
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Actually it isn't because of Viewpoint.
Each of us has our Viewpoint based on what we know combined with our values and tends to think "we" (the individual) is right.
From what I have learned dealing with moderators, they can have access to information "we" do not therefore what looks easy to us is not easy and different to the moderator.
Thus not all decisions a moderator makes are ones "we" agree with.
Back when I did some Post Reporting, some got removed and others didn't. Can't have it my way all the time. Course now I have no time given I spend less time on Trainz forums since 2010 was a problem year for my local area thus I am too involved with local problems for any of the social Trainz stuff.

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What's the purpose of a Code of Conduct if it's not enforced? Might as well remove it.
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Unfortunately I think you might have forgotten Section 19 of the CoC.
  1. Interfering with, criticising and / or publicly commenting about moderation decisions. Messages commenting on or criticizing forum administrative actions will be removed without warning. Any complaints or disagreements regarding forum or chat room moderation should be made by contacting Helpdesk.
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Since you still seem to have a problem, I would say you either need to use Helpdesk or form some group to work together to resolve what is still an issue for you.
 
Actually come to think of it. I'm not sure there is a system in place for the moderators to respond directly to you about something you reported. And before you say "The PM system!" I am not sure if your username is attached to reports or not. If I recall from the few times I've had reports come in to me on Zetaboards the reporters name is there; but the Auran forums uses a different forum software then ZB.

peter
 
PerRock said:
Actually come to think of it. I'm not sure there is a system in place for the moderators to respond directly to you about something you reported. And before you say "The PM system!" I am not sure if your username is attached to reports or not. If I recall from the few times I've had reports come in to me on Zetaboards the reporters name is there; but the Auran forums uses a different forum software then ZB.

peter
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Of course, one could simply enter their name and username at the end of the report. Doing that should not overburden the person doing the reporting.

Have fun,
 
If the moderators wish to allow common decency and courtesy to stand beside ill mannered agitators, then who am I to attempt changing it?

Organize a group? Surely you're kidding. From a database of virtually anonymous users scattered all over the planet? I've gotten two personal emails from members complaining about the same issue I've brought up here. I suppose the three of us (our organization, if they're still around) will simply have to live with it. The moderators have apparently decided.:wave:

As a PS - my name was clearly visible as the sender. I can only assume I was ID'd on the report.
 
I don't know how it works here, but it's probably similar to trainsim.com, so I'll describe that. First off trainsim.com moderators are volunteers, don't get paid for it, so it's a spare time job. When someone hits the alert button to report a post, an email goes out to all the admins and all the moderators in charge of the forum that post is in. Some days are quiet, other days I check my email and the entire first page is filled with alerts.

Next comes the judgment call - some posts are obviously blatantly wrong even in the opinion of a ghetto rat (I grew up on the west side of Chicago, so I'm pretty hard to offend), those get edited or deleted right away. Others are more subtle, and there's a hidden moderators forum where we sometimes discuss those amongst ourselves if there's no hurry. Still others are ridiculously pedantic - about half the alerts are from people who are so easily offended they really should stay off the internet altogether.

Then of course you have the inevitable whackos who need therapy, one guy reported IKB for saying "railfail" in the Trainz forum, then started screaming because I deleted some of HIS posts "bashing" railworks in the railworks forum - rules are for other people, he should have freedom of speech. :hehe: Amazing how many of THOSE there are, whatever character flaws they gripe about in other people they should see them whenever they look in the mirror.

So it's really a question of time - sometimes, when I have the free time to do so, I explain my decisions and judgment calls unless they're obvious, sometimes I send PMs to people reporting posts, more often I just take whatever action is required and go back to playing with trains, which is my primary reason for being here in the first place. :wave:
 
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