Destroyer

Angela,

You may find some useful material via this site - if you scroll quite a long way down, you'll find that there are albums of photos of railway and specific naval material available for purchase, as well as the purely military stuff - many more pictures than a book, and cheaper, too. Search list right at the bottom.

http://www.throughtheireyes2.co.uk/default.html

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Wow, so much great help offered I am overwhelmed with pleasure. Thank you all for being so kind.

Rick177 :- I made the Revell Flower Class and radio controlled it. It sailed very well until a swan attacked it. But a kind fellow boater went out in waders and retrieved most of it so I rebuilt her, the second time with brass masts so if that wretched swan came again it would get a rude awakening and a brass bar stuck in it! They were wet boats I believe and rolled like old Harry (if you know old Harry then you know what I mean...) Somebody said they could 'roll on wet grass'. But they did a sterling job during the war, many crewed by Canadians. Any info would be good news for me. Thank you for such a kind offer, I don't know what to say. Please don't put yourself to a lot of expense, magazines are heavy, but you can if you feel strongly enough and I will greatly appreciate it and treasure the items.
I do not have any current data on the corvettes so any is useful.

We have expanded in every possible way.....
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This is Ark Royal and it is BIG..!! The ship beside it is the new frigate HMS Troubridge after her conversion from a T Class destroyer, the only 'T' to survive the war I think. The dark flat bit at the bow is where the water level will be so the light brown is below the water.
The Ark won't be done until I have the book as I cannot get a stern view of her and need a good shot to get her 'behind' right. The squares along the side are where Boolean Cuts will be made and there are likely to be a lot of these so that pumps up the polys straight away. Also I decided to make the hull in 3 levels plus the flight deck, it makes life a lot easier than having to moving about ten thousand Vertices about, I get very muddled up with that job.
I am using the Ark as a trail on carriers so the way they are made might change for the next one, probably a Canadian ship I was asked about in this thread.

So to recap :- there is the frigate part done, the carrier on the way and a corvette on the books so I shall be a busy little ship maker.

Any questions?

Blessings to you all for the support,

Angela
 
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dericm,
Thanks for the link, very nice shots but all of USA stuff. I need UK ships really, but I enjoyed looking through the shots.

Masontaylor, again not what I need but interesting nonetheless.

Stationbeem, Once again nothing that took my eye. Never mind, you all tried your best and I thank you for helping.

The shots I need are from both bow and stern quarters and dead side on. At the moment I only have a few I have managed to get so hopefully these books will help. The first 2 destroyers were made from shots in that book with a bit of guesswork thrown in. I just got pictures of the AA guns to help me build Grouped parts so all I would have to do is bring in the model as a stand-alone unit, good when there are several on the ship. The carrier has blinking dozens of them...!

Cheers to you all again for trying to help,

Angela
 
Hey all; "ready aye ready", I'm not sure, but I hope that's still our motto. I'm not sure I've ever been to that site. I see "my" ship is last on the list. What a beauty! Thanks for that link, Dave.

Angela; I'm 62, really bad with computers, and have never even been able to master the easiest paint programs. I'm still amazed that I learned enough to make my route with TransDem (I hope I never have to do that again!). I have no way to give anything back to the Trainz community. I'm too darned old to "waste" a lot of time trying to learn now, and have decided to just enjoy Trainz. Sending you something will not only be saying thanks for ALL you've done, but may give you ideas for even more GREAT projects. So...in a very small way, I will at least THINK I helped out a bit and that will make me happy.

I'll see if I can get some info, photos, etc., from HMCS Sackville and Shearwater. I'm fairly sure the Shearwater museum is open year round, not sure about HMCS Sackville. I must also check into other naval museums around here. Sounds like fun to me! When I have some goodies, I'll pm you and you can let me know where to send the items.

Cheers.......Rick

P.S. Swans are not all bad. I feed a couple by hand. I must admit, sometimes after feeding them, I count my fingers!
 
Try this for many colour photos of HMCS Sackville, a Flower Class corvette, bow, stern, etc.

macsnavylinks.ca/corvettek-181.html

Sorry, not experienced with the whole link thing, but it's worth a little typing.

Cheers....rick
 
wow, cool! I built a trumpeter Kit of HMS Ark Royal as a kit many years ago (hey, I needed her so I could use her scale-model Swordfish to Torpedo my scale-model Bismarck) Both it and HMS Hood, another Trumpeter kit I built around the same time, are actually a 1/144th 15-inch shell's throw away from where I sit typing this...which means the "Model Ood" might want to get outta dodge here soon :hehe: (If I offend any person here with that remark, I sincerely apologize...I know the sad story of the Hood's first and only combat encounter all too well, and in no way want to trivialize the loss of all but three men out of a 1,325-man strong crew by my attempts at humor).

Angelah, If I didn't know any better, we'll soon have an entire second world war battle fleet to put to sea at the rate your working. Carriers, Battleships, Cruisers and all! :cool:

Keep up the good work, matey.
 
rickf77,
I am afraid my old eyes got your name wrong last time... sorry.
I began learning Gmax about 6.5 years ago when I was 68.5 years old, so you now have my age if you do the sums. Never say no, you can always try.
Now to reply further to your post. You're a very nice person to think of those things and I do deeply appreciate the gesture. Bless you.
So, and to show my bit of appeciation for all those Canadians who fought in WWII gave so much during those awful years, here is a little something I am working on right now.... Thank you all.

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I'll bet and Canadian worth their salts will recognise it immediately. Yep, it's a Flower Class corvette, K 139 in fact, don't know the name, just the Pennant number because it's on the side... ha ha. So info and photos of any corvette would be great, especially the deckhouses and stern area, oh, and what is between the bridge structure and the funnel (stack to you).
And I must look up the 'Maggie' too, HMCS Majestic I think, or similar, correct me if I am wrong which I most likely am. A carrier but I need info on her as well. I am learning from the Ark so can inprove on carriers and they look so powerful and big.

You're right, I have plenty planned, it's just getting time to do them all.

Blessings to you all,

Angela
 
Wow, you're working on so many things, I don't think the shipyards of South Korea could produce ships as quickly as you do! I look forward to the Ark and the Flower class corvette. Thanks for your excellent models.

Rob.
 
rickf77,
Thanks for that link, I found the site eventually and got nearly all the shots of Sackville. The only ones not there are of the deckhouses. She is in exhibition white now, not battle grey. I can't do dazzle or commo colours so they'll all be wartime battle(ship) grey I am afraid. You did well with that link, some nice ships there and what we call RFAs as well, might do one of those. And Huron, a Tribal I reckon. Is she different from my Nubian? If so she could go on the list.
And a hospital ship of some sort might be a good idea to round off a fleet.

And from those photos I can see I got the Pom Pom bandstand wrong so will adjust that.

Angela
 
Hi Anglea;

Let me add those numbers up. OK, I see you're 39, just like me!

We had 3 carriers. HMCS Warrior, Magnificent and Bonaventure. The last two were indeed Majestic Class. All came from the "Mother Land" and I do not believe we had any carriers until after WW2, and never more than one at any time. All Canadians seemed to fall in love with the carriers.

I believe our ships were "battleship" gray. That would work great for me. In the '60s we used a "light blue-gray" colour, and still do.

Your Tribal Class is bang on I believe. I have not seen one for about 50 years, er, I mean 25 years, hee,hee. Our Tribal class were all named after Native Canadian tribes. Huron, Haida, MicMac, etc. I'm not sure if they were hand-me-downs or not, but they had the look of your Nubian.

I'm having a hard time keeping up with the fleet of ships you're building! You're an amazing lady! Be careful, before you know it, we'll all be playing with ships instead of trains!

Wrong bandstand or not, That sure looks like a corvette!

Cheers....Rick

oops, K-139........HMCS Moncton
 
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rickf77 said:
Hi Anglea;

Let me add those numbers up. OK, I see you're 39, just like me!

We had 3 carriers. HMCS Warrior, Magnificent and Bonaventure. The last two were indeed Majestic Class. All came from the "Mother Land" and I do not believe we had any carriers until after WW2, and never more than one at any time. All Canadians seemed to fall in love with the carriers.

I believe our ships were "battleship" gray. That would work great for me. In the '60s we used a "light blue-gray" colour, and still do.

Your Tribal Class is bang on I believe. I have not seen one for about 50 years, er, I mean 25 years, hee,hee. Our Tribal class were all named after Native Canadian tribes. Huron, Haida, MicMac, etc. I'm not sure if they were hand-me-downs or not, but they had the look of your Nubian.

I'm having a hard time keeping up with the fleet of ships you're building! You're an amazing lady! Be careful, before you know it, we'll all be playing with ships instead of trains!

Wrong bandstand or not, That sure looks like a corvette!

Cheers....Rick

oops, K-139........HMCS Moncton
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Hi rickf77,
Thanks for that info, it helps a lot. I guessed the Tribals had Canacian Indian names, Guron gave that one away... ha ha.
The 2 books are winging their way to me as I write, well Amazon assure me they are anyway, so I an hopoing to be able to get on with the frigate and carrier soon. Then I must look at your 'Maggie' and see what I can do about resurrecting her. In between I need to get the corvette completed and a narrow boat for Itareus, he is being very patient waiting for some action.
But today I am off out to the ranges for a rest and a jolly good shoot. I am quite a good shot still so it's enkoyable rather than frustrating. It's all target stuff, knock downs/knock ups and paper, I do not shoot animals. I beleive that until I can recreate that particular form of life I have no right to take life away.

Bandstand has been changed and a fair bit more done on the corvette including the depth charge throwers. Next are the racks. Trouble is that I made the hull out of a single Box, changed that into a mesh and twiddled the knobs to get the shape so the quarterdeck is level with the edge instead of being lower, as is the fo'stle. I tried a Boollean to lower it and that worked but then I am unable to retexture the cut surface. So it might mean modifying the hull, well decks really. It will just take time and upping the polys.

Blessings,

Angela
 
Morning Angela;

Yes, for goodness sake, have a little R&R! No one could blame you for taking a shot at that "wretched swan" if it passes by the range!

Cheers....Rick
 
rickf77 said:
Morning Angela;

Yes, for goodness sake, have a little R&R! No one could blame you for taking a shot at that "wretched swan" if it passes by the range!

Cheers....Rick
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I wouldn't shoot a swan even though it sank my corvette... that would be very naughty over here as they all belong to the Queen (the swans I mean, not corvettes).

Corvette coming along nicely. I added some gunnels and although it raises the deck slightly I think it still looks fine. I am still learning with making ships so these things are bound to happen. I shall be onto the armament next and then the racks on the stern. After that it's detailing a bit, like the bridge although again these were very small and cramped so I can't get that much on them. Then add the Pointers for Pennant numbering at that should be it.
Both books are on their way so maybe I can get on with both the carrier and the frigate.

I have been asked my email if I would do the ships at Pearl Harbour - there were only 1 or 2 weren't there.... he he. But I feel that should be up to an American asset creator as they would have more access to the data than I have. Maybe Bedorsey could have a shot but I don't really want to row anybody into a mass of work. Their big battle wagons were something else...!!

Blessings,

Angela
 
An update :-

The corvette isn't far off now. I had hoped to get it done today (Sunday) but I had a stream of interruptions that have delayed me and then I found the bridge area was wrong so had to redo that.

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More work at the stern yet but looking something like a corvette now.

Angela
 
Hello Angela;

Well, that has just got to be the best one yet!!! I don't know enough polite words to describe how great a job you have done on the corvette. I thought the others were fantastic, but.....well, I'm flabbergasted! Thanks for doing this one Angela, you're the best! My route is light years away from being done. As soon as my trainz pc gets out of the shop, I'll be doing some work around the dockyard.

3 Cheers for you.......Rick

I believe we have a few of the Queen's swans over here. I don't believe we are allowed to hurt ANY swans. It does not work both ways. I've seen swans put the run to full grown men many times. Always good for a chuckle!
 
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Well, I'll be..... Just noticed I've been yakking about Tribal Class destroyers and looking at Angela's Tribal Class frigate. They do have a very similar profile. I guess the destroyers are a fair bit older. Sorry about that, the old brain ain't what it used to be. (same goes for eyes, ears, and the rest of it)

Cheers....Rick
 
Well heave ho me hearties, the corvette is done and has gone to both the TPR site and the DS, I just send them a few minutes ago so my guess is the TPR will beat the DS to it and haul up their colours bravely. Ah, do I see it fluttering in the offshore breeze?

Next I must get on with a narrow boat for itareus, hopefully I can do that fairly quickly for him (famous last words...!) as he has been waiting patiently in the wings while all this navy stull was dashing about.

Then maybe the 2 books will arrive but in the meantime after the narrow boat the Ark can get started again as a very kind Trainzer mailed me a wealth of very nice pictures of her. Another friend (yes, I have more than one...) loaned me a small but perfectly formed model of Ark Royal which will be a great help when making her - soon...

I have also been loaned a beautiful book on the Hood with full pull-out pages of diagrams and pictures in full colour - grey... haha. So maybe she will be on the hit list, I say maybe when I mean she is on the hit list. That same friend owns a similar book on some German ships, the Bismark for a start I believe and Prinz Eugen together with the Graf Spa, or is that spe? No, it's Spee, that looks better....

But first as I said, I need to move out these three jobs before I can consider starting a Battle Cruiser, even as famous a one as HMS Hood..

Looking even farther ahead a friend asked for a life boat and building and sent a nice shot of one, but I haven't the faintest idea which class it is so will have to go Googling all over the place to find out. So maybe in a fortnight... at a guess. I don't think there is one available so that is really a must.

So heave up your anchors and away we go.... happy sailing.

Blessings,

Angela

TPR just confirmed it is up on their Download Depot ready for you to go get.... woof, woof.
 
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