Destroyer

For Angela,
Just went to the start of this thread. Maybe its too late but I have a couple of photos of HMAS ANZAC taken in the early 60's. The gun director at the rear of the bridge had been removed and the B turret converted to a classroom but there is lots of nice upper deck detail. One shot was obviously taken from a helicopter hovering about 200 yards off the starboard bow. The amount of wake suggests it was doing around 30 knots. I suspect it was the "official" photo of the day.

If you are interested I could post it or send you a copy.
 
pcas1986,
If you have any scanned photos of a Daring I wouldn't mind them, that type would round off the latter destroyers nicely. Close detail is good, although I am very limited how much I dare add to any of these due to the polys clomibing rapidly.
After an evening at the pub with my relative I had a brainwave (don't get many so I like to take full advantage when they do arrive...) about the stanchions that might save a goodly few, worth a shot anyway I have nothing to lose - only polys.
The hull is only 232 polys so the devil is in the detailing and I suspect stanchions (handrail posts) are one of the culprits. Reducing the Faces might help a good deal.

The Leanders were a nice ship I felt so any shots of one might encourage me to make one, always up for a challenge.

Blessings,

Angela
 
For Angela,
Just went to the start of this thread. Maybe its too late but I have a couple of photos of HMAS ANZAC taken in the early 60's. The gun director at the rear of the bridge had been removed and the B turret converted to a classroom but there is lots of nice upper deck detail. One shot was obviously taken from a helicopter hovering about 200 yards off the starboard bow. The amount of wake suggests it was doing around 30 knots. I suspect it was the "official" photo of the day.

If you are interested I could post it or send you a copy.

Hi Paul,
Any shots of ships are most welcome. To send it would be best to attach to an email so PM me and I'll give you my address. Same goes for anybody who has photos that can be scanned, information is vital to get things reasonably right.
'Official' shots are usually very good and of high quality so would 'travel' well. Might do an Aussie ship, well worth that effort I think. In fact any ships within that time period could be made so that a decent naval dockyard could be made in Trainz.

No LOD as I have not the faintest idea how to do it so if anybody can help with that aspect I would appreciate it, how to do it for a start might be a good step forward and especially the config.

Blessings,

Angela
 
OK. I'll get my old photo album out again and scan in what I think may be useful. One of my ships was Duchess (ex HMS), also a Daring, which we bought after Voyager got run over by Melbourne off Jervis Bay. Most of my Duchess photos were photos taken onboard and mostly of crew members. In those days I was a leading seaman and my photo taking days came to an halt when I got promoted to PO (Communications Yeoman). After than I never had time. If we were "in company" then I was on the bridge with the captain.

You can get more information and photos of HMAS Vampire via http://www.anmm.gov.au/site/page.cfm?u=1371. In this particular photo, with HMAS Onslow, you may notice it has been heavily modified. The large LWO2 radar (looks like a fly swatter) was not original and neither was the revised bridge and the radome which I think is a gunnery radar.

I'll PM you when I have scanned what photos I have.

Cheers
 
Cheers Paul, And a belated congratters on your promo to PO.

But I have a small problem maybe one of the config techies can help with. I am trying to be able to renumber the Pennant numbers so that you nice folk can change them. I have renaming (which is all this is in effect) on my Staines station so copied over the Pointer.
Ooops, just realised I haven'y named the Pointer, no wonder it doesn't work.... so lines above a bit redundant until I check in Trainz.

But there will be an updated set of these ships because I have managed to reduce the polys from 39,000 plus to 22,529, still high but an enormous saving.
I was in the pub last night sipping a half of cider when it dawned on me that I coud reduce all stanchions to a triangle and they would look more or less the same. So now I have even more on the ship and still saved 0ver 10k in the poly region, not bad eh...! But that is it, I looked all over and cannot find any more objects that could be zonked. All the ones doctored are Cylinders or Tubes. So drinking is good for you! I only had the small cider because I was driving....

Right, off to sort out the Pointer now.... watch this space..!!

Angela

News is that with some help 2 of the 3 pointers show the number. Why the 3rd one isn't is a mystery yet to be solved.... it's the starboard one.
 
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The Leanders were a nice ship I felt so any shots of one might encourage me to make one, always up for a challenge.

Leanders were nice ships to serve on as well, Cleopatra 1977 to 78. Sorry can't find any photo's that are usable, all taken from the ship not of it!
 
Yes, it was a Flower Class corvette but the name was not an authentic one, just made up for the film I believe.

Thanks, Angela - I'm not surprised but I think it was a brilliant idea as a fictitious name!

Ray
 
Angela,

HMS Nubian and HMS Solebay downloaded from TPR and installed succesfully, great models, thanks very much.

Rob.
 
Hi Angela;

Oh, heck, I see they are ready! Gotta get to TPR before they're all gone!

Have you thought about doing a carrier? Sorry if it's been brought up earlier, this thing is getting quite long. Would a carrier be harder to do than a destroyer? Ours have always been hand me downs from the RN. The country was almost torn apart when we lost our last carrier. The "Bonnie" was costing us an arm and a leg, but most people did not want to loose her. HMS/HMCS Magnificent, the "Maggie", was also well loved. As a young salt, 9 or 10 years old, I was on board HMCS Bonaventure. It was a father/son kind of trip from Halifax to St. John's ship yard. I think every kid on that trip joined the RCN!

Cheers, thanks again for the great ships, I'm on my way to TPR........Rick
 
Hello Angela

Just tried downloading Solebay from TPR - failed! Very disappointed.

Ray

Ray & Robd,
I have just upload 2 new files of these destroyers to the TPR. These have the option to set the pennant number by clicking centre stern; Here is a list of ships...
Armada D14, Barfleur D80, Cadiz D79, Camperdown D32, Finisterre D55, Gabbard D47, Graveleines D24, Hogue D74, Lagos D44, St James D65, St Kitts D18, Saintes D84, Sluys D60, Solebay D70, Trafalgar D77, Vigo D231, Agincourt D86, Aisne D22, Alamein D17, Barossa D68, Corunna D97, Dunkirk D09, Jutland D62, Matapan D43, Anzac D59 and finally Tobruk D37.

The Tribals have also gone as new versions : HMS Nubian G36, Ashanti G51, Eskimo G75 and tartar G43.

They have also gone to the DS as the new version, the previous uploads failed anyway so it saved me the trouble of doing it twice.

Ray, If you get a problem again let me know and I'll send direct. Can't have anybody disappointed. can I....

Blessings,

Angela
 
Hi Angela;

Oh, heck, I see they are ready! Gotta get to TPR before they're all gone!

Have you thought about doing a carrier? Sorry if it's been brought up earlier, this thing is getting quite long. Would a carrier be harder to do than a destroyer? Ours have always been hand me downs from the RN. The country was almost torn apart when we lost our last carrier. The "Bonnie" was costing us an arm and a leg, but most people did not want to loose her. HMS/HMCS Magnificent, the "Maggie", was also well loved. As a young salt, 9 or 10 years old, I was on board HMCS Bonaventure. It was a father/son kind of trip from Halifax to St. John's ship yard. I think every kid on that trip joined the RCN!

Cheers, thanks again for the great ships, I'm on my way to TPR........Rick

I would love to help our great Canadian allies if at all possible, more famous perhaps for the Flower Class corvettes. They are much larger ships of course and I am not very well up on carriers, but I can only try. If you have any pictures they would help a lot. PM me if you have and I'll send my mailing address.

At present working on a Frigate but am also awaiting a book on those so I could put that aside for a while, the rivets were getting too hot anyway!

Blessings,

Angela

Just had confirmation from bot the DS and TPR that assets have been approved.
 
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For Angela.

Sorry, but after looking through old photo albums I only had two shots of a Daring: one of the bow during a jackstay transfer and another of the superstructure amidships. Neither of which would help that much for model making. I do have some shots from onboard Duchess but they are of people and there isn't much superstructure in view.

Cheers
 
Never mind Paul, you looked and I thank you for that. Maybe I can get another book on these ships that has better pictures or schematic drawings, they help with the general layout a lot. Regarding your JST shots, I was at sea when a RAS was performed (Replenishment at Sea) and wow, what a process. The sea literally boiled between the ships, all very exciting for a normally stone frigate bound young officer.
More ships? Definitely, I have a few in mind but cannot use the PC every day due to my eyes going wonky so I try to work faster and get out for a day here and there for a shoot.

The new uploads to the TPR replace ones that had set Pennant numbers, now you can add your own by clicking on the stern's centreline. Sorry to make you go get them again but it will be worth it as they also have the poly count reduced by over 10 thou, not bad going but it only took a brainwave and a bit of time going through a lot of Cylinders and reducing the Faces to just 3. It doesn't notice that much and improves the amount of ships you can place.
Hopefully I will be able to sort out the deckhouse arrangements on this frigate once the new book arrives later this month, got a lot done now so it is well on the way. So in the meantime I will try to sort out a carrier as has been suggested. It depends on what info I can dig up as to which one. I would have gone for the Ark but whether or not that will be the case depends on Google and if I can buy in a carrier specific book. If I get one done more will most likely follow so the Canadians should get theirs in due course, can't let Canada down, can I? So if anybody has info in the way of pictures for those I would appreciate a scanned shot.

Blessings,

Angela.
 
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Re carriers. When it was suggested I immediately thought of the airport scenery asset that has planes taking off and landing periodically. I was wondering if that would be possible on a carrier model.

Carriers are rather boxy in shape and the poly count probably wouldn't be that large compared to an older style frigate. I recall working with USS Kitty Hawk and USS Constellation. We were ResDes (rescue destroyer) for Connie during flight ops once and I couldn't believe how wide it was. Planes used to fly low over us and leak avcat (I think) all over us. Smelled like kerosene.
 
Ray, If you get a problem again let me know and I'll send direct. Can't have anybody disappointed. can I....

Thank you Angela - you've solved my problem and I shall now enjoy launching Solebay and Nubian.

Ray
 
That's fine Ray, hope you enjoy them.
I just ordered 2 carrier books from a certain well-known web retailer, should be here this month I hope. Got a few shots of the Internet but many are long range and small so of limited use.

Hi pcas1986,
Although boxy as you say they also had many side masts I assume for radio contact with flown-off aircraft and umpteen guns. I need goods shots of pom poms, bofors and oerlikons used on this ships in single, twin and quad mounts really. It might be a case of buying more books on the subjects but a Google might produce something.
If I can make it/them then we need a volunteer to make the aircraft of that period, the good old 'stringbag' for a start and I believe Skuas were abourd as well. But one step at a time. I have the dimensions at least but freeboard is another matter, they never mention it and it is rather vital. To date I have had to best-guess it but a carrier is a big ship so it is rather more vital.

Incidentally they work fine in 2012 I am told on good authority.
Angela
 
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Good morning Angela;

I see you have a spot in your heart for corvettes. We have a Flower Class museum ship tied up in Halifax Harbour. She is HMCS Sackville. There are many colour photos of her on the internet. I rarely cross the harbour, but I would be happy to go over and take photos for you, if you like. Can you imagine what it would have been like aboard one of those during the war!?

I live very close to what is now called CFB Shearwater. This "CFB" (Canadian Forces Base) garbage started just when I signed up. I was issued a traditional navy uniform when I got to "CFB" Cornwallis, wound up in the hospital for a few weeks, when I got out everyone (navy, army, air force) was wearing some new green uniform. I managed to sneak by for a couple of years before they gave me the "greenies". Shearwater has a small museum on the base. It's still an active air base, but it used to be run by the navy. I might be able to get some magizines, photos, post cards, etc., at the museum. If you like, I will pick up some goodies for you and send them over to you the old way...by mail. I'll throw in a mug, pins, or whatever. HMCS Shearwater was closely tied to our carriers.

My "Trainz pc" is in the shop. I've downloaded your ships, can't wait to see them in my dockyard!

Cheers........Rick
 
That's fine Ray, hope you enjoy them.
I just ordered 2 carrier books from a certain well-known web retailer, should be here this month I hope. Got a few shots of the Internet but many are long range and small so of limited use.

Hi pcas1986,
Although boxy as you say they also had many side masts I assume for radio contact with flown-off aircraft and umpteen guns. I need goods shots of pom poms, bofors and oerlikons used on this ships in single, twin and quad mounts really. It might be a case of buying more books on the subjects but a Google might produce something.
If I can make it/them then we need a volunteer to make the aircraft of that period, the good old 'stringbag' for a start and I believe Skuas were abourd as well. But one step at a time. I have the dimensions at least but freeboard is another matter, they never mention it and it is rather vital. To date I have had to best-guess it but a carrier is a big ship so it is rather more vital.

Incidentally they work fine in 2012 I am told on good authority.
Angela

Angela,

Check out my sites that hosts some of my father's images from his tour during the Korean War.
http://trunklinephotography.blogspot.com/2010/05/hms-belfast-in-japan-1951.html
http://trunklinephotography.blogspot.com/search?q=bairoko
https://sites.google.com/site/vs23in1951/
I have many more shots of destroyers, carriers, and other areas of the ships he was on.
DD875 Tucker 1a.jpg

I also have a few good shots of the HMS Belfast in the Yokasuka area.

Dan
 
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