Coupling Question

railsong

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I have a consist of 20 coal cars. On a siding I have 30 more coal cars. I am trying to have the train with the 20 cars go to the siding and back into it and couple to car #21. For some reason I can't get it to do that. If I uncouple my loco from the 20 cars and give commands to couple to car #21 it does just that. I just don't know how to couple a train with several cars to another string of cars. Running TS2010EE. Is there a command to couple to a car number or something like that? Any help here will be greatly appreciated......
 
There was a coupling rule that would achieve just what you ask, but I don't know if it works in 2010. Try adding a trackmark near the car to couple to, then add a command to "Drive Via" that trackmark, then couple. Sometimes you need to nudge it a bit.
 
There was a coupling rule that would achieve just what you ask, but I don't know if it works in 2010. Try adding a trackmark near the car to couple to, then add a command to "Drive Via" that trackmark, then couple. Sometimes you need to nudge it a bit.
Well I am still working on this. I am having problems with AI setting the siding junction into the siding. Seems like setting the junctions when the train is going in reverse doesn't work right. If I save the session with the junction set into the siding it does work. My problem comes after the consist does his work and comes back to park, he has to back into the siding and uncouple from the 21st car and then proceed back out onto the line and then back into the loco and 20 cars on the line right beside the other cars. The junction just won't switch right. I don't know if there is a trigger rule that would set a junction or not. Oh well, I will just keep on working on it, maybe I can find some way to do what I want....Thanks:confused:
 
Have you checked the lever is correctly placed? Perhaps if you delete the lever and replace it the lever may work. Also consider if the uncoupled wagons are still within the radius of the lever.
 
You may need to adjust the trigger radius of the point. I have mine all set at 5m where AI shunting takes place. The default is 20m and sometimes a loco/train cant move far enough away from the junction to allow the switch to be thrown

Andy
 
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You may need to adjust the trigger radius of the point. I have mine all set at 5m where AI shunting takes place. The default is 20m and sometimes a loco/train cant move far enough away from the junction to allow the switch to be thrown

Andy
I have tried to get the "Couple at Trackmark" command on the DLS, but I just can't get it to come up to download. I've tried typing in the name and I've tried the kuid number, but nothing comes up. I have always had a hard time with typing in the kuid numbers of things. What all do you type in? I've got a lot to learn.....Thanks......:confused:
 
You may need to adjust the trigger radius of the point. I have mine all set at 5m where AI shunting takes place. The default is 20m and sometimes a loco/train cant move far enough away from the junction to allow the switch to be thrown

Andy
Also how do you change the trigger radius of the point?......:confused:
 
The couple at trackmark command is here http://www.auran.com/TRS2004/DLS_viewasset.php?AssetID=49850

just click on the link or copy it into your web browser and you will be taken to the DLS black pages. Click on the 'Download' link to the lower left of the yellow picture.

To change the trigger radius of points open your route in surveyor and open the track tab, then open the trackmark move tab. Click on the blue dot to expand the field. You will see 3 circular icons with the number 20.00 between the first and second. Change the 20 to 5 (I dont think that you can go lower then this) and then click on the middle circular icon (called 'set trigger radius' if you hover your mouse over it) now click on the spline point at the end of each of your points (the spline point where the point lever is). You can do this for any points you wish and the train wount have to move so far away form it before the point direction can be changed - really helpful for shunting operations in yards and run around loops.

Andy
 
The couple at trackmark command is here http://www.auran.com/TRS2004/DLS_viewasset.php?AssetID=49850

just click on the link or copy it into your web browser and you will be taken to the DLS black pages. Click on the 'Download' link to the lower left of the yellow picture.

To change the trigger radius of points open your route in surveyor and open the track tab, then open the trackmark move tab. Click on the blue dot to expand the field. You will see 3 circular icons with the number 20.00 between the first and second. Change the 20 to 5 (I dont think that you can go lower then this) and then click on the middle circular icon (called 'set trigger radius' if you hover your mouse over it) now click on the spline point at the end of each of your points (the spline point where the point lever is). You can do this for any points you wish and the train wount have to move so far away form it before the point direction can be changed - really helpful for shunting operations in yards and run around loops.

Andy
Thanks Andy, but I just can't get it to download. When I click "Download" it brings up CM 3.3 and in the Download Helper it gives me "Location Unknown". Don't know what to do now......:confused:
 
Use the keyword search in CM, put in, couple at. Scroll down the list given, its by marzipan.
OK now I have the "Couple at Trackmark" command. I can't get it to work either. I just about ready to give up. I just can't get a clear signal for the train to get backed up to the car I want to couple to. I have the main siding track and a Xovr to the second side track where the cars I want to couple to are. The train pulls forward to a trackmark far enough to clear the Xovr switch. Then it just continues on forward for what reason I don't know. :confused: No matter what I do I can't get the train to back through the Xovr to the other side track. I have tried placing signals at different points and can't seem to get a clear or a yellow for the back up.....I probably sound a little crazy, but I got a lot to learn about trying to back up and couple......
 
OK now I have the "Couple at Trackmark" command. I can't get it to work either. I just about ready to give up. I just can't get a clear signal for the train to get backed up to the car I want to couple to. I have the main siding track and a Xovr to the second side track where the cars I want to couple to are. The train pulls forward to a trackmark far enough to clear the Xovr switch. Then it just continues on forward for what reason I don't know. :confused: No matter what I do I can't get the train to back through the Xovr to the other side track. I have tried placing signals at different points and can't seem to get a clear or a yellow for the back up.....I probably sound a little crazy, but I got a lot to learn about trying to back up and couple......

OK...a proof of concept is needed here. Delete the wagons from the second side track and instead of using couple at trackmark use the navigate to trackmark command and see if you can get your train from the main siding, over the crossover and into the second siding. If it does what you set it to do under AI control then you know that your signalling and track is all fine. If that works then we just need to solve the problem when there are waggons in the second siding. Post back with your results

Andy
 
Try less signals, where there is a lot of coupling to do you can be better off with none in that area.
 
Well, what for me always work is: right-click on the LAST car of the train and then do "couple to" command to the FIRST car of the row that you want to pick up.
In this way I can build very long trains from cars standing on different tracks.

When I give the "couple to" command to the driver he often choses the wrong track and takes a lot of time and a lot forward and backward driving before he gets to the right place.
 
It does not have to be the train you move foreward but the wagons you left behind that causes the lever not to change. The TM that you are asking to couple at must be able to see the wagons without any junctions between it and the wagons and must also be on the end that you are coupling with. Signals will not show clear if you have a consist in the siding as the signal sees it as occupied and remains at red.
 
It does not have to be the train you move foreward but the wagons you left behind that causes the lever not to change. The TM that you are asking to couple at must be able to see the wagons without any junctions between it and the wagons and must also be on the end that you are coupling with. Signals will not show clear if you have a consist in the siding as the signal sees it as occupied and remains at red.
My Locos do go to the trackmark on the #2 siding without any wagons on that siding. My problem is that on the #1 siding track I have my Locos coupled to 20 wagons. I am trying to get it to couple up with 30 more wagons on the #2 siding. I wonder if the first 20 wagons already coupled to the Locos is the problem...I have 3 Locos for the wagons, as when loaded with coal I need the power......Let me know if you can couple wagons to wagons or what I should do....Thanks much.....:)
 
It does not have to be the train you move foreward but the wagons you left behind that causes the lever not to change. The TM that you are asking to couple at must be able to see the wagons without any junctions between it and the wagons and must also be on the end that you are coupling with. Signals will not show clear if you have a consist in the siding as the signal sees it as occupied and remains at red.
Well I am still confused. I am not leaving any wagons behind, as I am pulling my Locos with 20 wagons coupled and I want to couple to the other 30 wagons on the #2 siding track. My couple at TM is just in front of the #2 siding wagons. There is no junction between the TM and the wagons. My Locos with the 20 wagons has to back through the Xovr to the #2 siding couple to TM. The Xovr switch won't change to let the train into the Xovr to the #2 siding.....:confused:
 
Thanks to everyone with your input on this thread. I finally made a short siding for my locos and now have the choice of using the 20 cars on siding #1 or the 50 cars on siding #2. The locos have no trouble coupling to either as long as just the locos are used for coupling. I don't know why you can't use locos with a consist to pick up cars on a siding, as in real life they do it all the time...Again thanks to all......
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