Bridgehampton Metro - UK Light Rail / Modern Tramway in Progress
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Red_Rattler
Since 09 May 2003
Paul, one of the reasons that repeated pictures is a pain, is that it requires extra scrolling (especially when the same picture is quoted several times), and quite often, we have to wait until the page stops moving. I'm actually having trouble trying to find one of your pictures because of quoting the same picture several times.
Paulzmay, this picture (the one with the beach) looks as if it came from the Westhaven Coastal route.
And with this picture (a picture that shows certain track), is that track available to download, and if so, where please, and is it tram track, or train track with overhead tram wires added?
Also, where can I find the Adelaide H-Class trams? (not the real ones, the ones for Trainz! :hehe: )
Oh no, no, no Paul, you can't have this: http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/BHM/paulzmay_20100717_0007.jpg. (Tramway with fence on both sides). The developers will claim that the tramway with fence will "divide" the city from the beach, and the poor developers will loose valuable real estate! :hehe:
Paulzmay, this picture (the one with the beach) looks as if it came from the Westhaven Coastal route.
And with this picture (a picture that shows certain track), is that track available to download, and if so, where please, and is it tram track, or train track with overhead tram wires added?
Also, where can I find the Adelaide H-Class trams? (not the real ones, the ones for Trainz! :hehe: )
Melbourne, Wickham in Newcastle & a few other places.
Oh no, no, no Paul, you can't have this: http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/BHM/paulzmay_20100717_0007.jpg. (Tramway with fence on both sides). The developers will claim that the tramway with fence will "divide" the city from the beach, and the poor developers will loose valuable real estate! :hehe:
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True - it's certainly a waste of page space, just not of bandwidth. It's particularly annoying when 10 pictures are quoted, just to ask a quastion about the third one. To his credit, mussels only quoted the relevant 2...
The first pic isn't from Westhaven, though looking at it again, I can see what you mean - it's the same sea-wall, and I've used those big houses and beach textures before...
The track is the latest MP Concrete Track for TS09/10, available here: http://www.hp-trainz.de/Download_Freeware/Gleis/MP_Track_Concrete.cdp The wires are 134105:1304:1 (DLS), using my elevated waygauges to ensure alignment.
I don't think the H class is still available, and I think it has a bit of a checkered history, so I'm not sure if it ever will be...
I was thinking of UK tram / train grade crossings - I'm aware there are some in Victoria...
Paul
The first pic isn't from Westhaven, though looking at it again, I can see what you mean - it's the same sea-wall, and I've used those big houses and beach textures before...
The track is the latest MP Concrete Track for TS09/10, available here: http://www.hp-trainz.de/Download_Freeware/Gleis/MP_Track_Concrete.cdp The wires are 134105:1304:1 (DLS), using my elevated waygauges to ensure alignment.
I don't think the H class is still available, and I think it has a bit of a checkered history, so I'm not sure if it ever will be...
I was thinking of UK tram / train grade crossings - I'm aware there are some in Victoria...
Paul
No, I don't know of any in the UK either... and the barriers are based on Auz ones... But with all the new tram routes the UK is getting, who knows when a real one one might appear?
No reason why a fictitious Trainz map can't have the first!!!
Nearly ready
Boat
A few more shots from Bridgehampton Coastal...
Line 5:
Tight clearances on line 5:
A section of Line 3 where double track railway has become single track railway, and single track tramway:
Falkland Road Station on Line 3. The light rail stop has been built in the remains of the former heavy rail station:
Paul
Line 5:
Tight clearances on line 5:
A section of Line 3 where double track railway has become single track railway, and single track tramway:
Falkland Road Station on Line 3. The light rail stop has been built in the remains of the former heavy rail station:
Paul
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Nice Shots Paul! when this is released I'm electrifying the train line though,
Kooyong and Gardiner in Melbourne's Eastern Suburbs are two of four locations where the 600V DC tramway crosses the 1500V DC railway on the level, the other two locations being Riversdale and Glenhuntly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8NS25wbbms&feature=fvwhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8NS25wbbms&feature=fvw
Boat, as you can see, the tram tracks are actually in the middle of the road, not the outside, and this is why I wanted the crossing with boom gates and traffic lights
Jamie
Kooyong and Gardiner in Melbourne's Eastern Suburbs are two of four locations where the 600V DC tramway crosses the 1500V DC railway on the level, the other two locations being Riversdale and Glenhuntly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8NS25wbbms&feature=fvwhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8NS25wbbms&feature=fvw
Boat, as you can see, the tram tracks are actually in the middle of the road, not the outside, and this is why I wanted the crossing with boom gates and traffic lights
Jamie
Looks great! when will this line be released? Also, for the full map, would I have to download all these maps of branches and merge them all or will you merge them and release it as one large map?A few more shots from Bridgehampton Coastal...
Line 5:
Tight clearances on line 5:
A section of Line 3 where double track railway has become single track railway, and single track tramway:
Falkland Road Station on Line 3. The light rail stop has been built in the remains of the former heavy rail station:
Paul
Currently I have 4 Bridgehampton modules in progress:
Bridgehampton Metro (line 1 and centre):
This was the first started, and currently the largest, it includes the entirety of line 1, and all of the other lines for a couple of boards around the town centre. It still needs a huge amount of work, and is a little bit too detailed for my computer, so progress is slow. I would hope to finish it in 2012 or so.
Bridgehampton Metro South:
This is released as a 1 board mini-route for TRS06 on the DLS, and is currently undergoing an expansion to 3 boards in TS2010. As it will join on to the south of the line 1 route, I will merge it in before releasing that route.
Hampton Mall:
This is a 5? board route of the outer suburban and rural terminus of one line. It is released to the DLS for TRS06. I have started an upgrade for TS2010, but not got very far yet. I expect to get it out next year sometime. At the moment this does not adjoin any other route.
Bridgehampton Coast:
This is a substantial route that covers the area between the historic centre of the city, and it's now largely re-developed and gentrified docks area, and also the seaside resort of Lovell's Quay. Several lines run through this area and interchange in the docks area. As this route directly adjoins the line 1 route, when the last of these routes is released it will incorporate the other. I would hope to get this route finished next year sometime.
I hope this clears it up.
Paul
p.s. please don't quote a whole post's worth of pictures if you don't need to...
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Red_Rattler
Since 09 May 2003
Paging Paulzmay
Paul, does the Bridgehampton Metro South on the so called download helpless Station have most of the same objects/items that Westhaven Coastal has?
At Busutakos, Paul is right about quoting whole posts, especially quoting pictures. Due to the quoting of pictures, I just had to scroll 13 times just to get to your message.
Paul, does the Bridgehampton Metro South on the so called download helpless Station have most of the same objects/items that Westhaven Coastal has?
At Busutakos, Paul is right about quoting whole posts, especially quoting pictures. Due to the quoting of pictures, I just had to scroll 13 times just to get to your message.
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@bustakos - The only module that may be available for TS2009 is BRidgehampton Coastal - the rest will all be for TS2010 (or even a subsequent version if it takes that long). I will release the Citadis if I can get an answer from Denis_fr - he hasn't been on the forum for over a year, so it may never happen.
@km1961 - Yes I know the feeling. At least I don't keep adding boards, so when it's finished it really is finished...
@Red_Rattler - Bridgehampton Metro South uses quite a few of the objects from Westhaven Coastal, but you will need quite a lot more as well.
Paul
@km1961 - Yes I know the feeling. At least I don't keep adding boards, so when it's finished it really is finished...
@Red_Rattler - Bridgehampton Metro South uses quite a few of the objects from Westhaven Coastal, but you will need quite a lot more as well.
Paul
Red_Rattler
Since 09 May 2003
At Paul, while I haven't downloaded Bridgehampton Metro fully, I've downloaded the layout section (still downloading some items that I haven't already got), I've noticed that some of the tram lines have "square" curves in a number of places.
For example it looks more like that 8m track has been used on curves, even though if I remember the track is 2m.
Eidt: Paul in picture 6 (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/BHM/paulzmay_20100719_0003.jpg), I note that the tram line heading into the station isn't that straight, even though it would be, if real. Not sure, but would a slightly thinner light rail station be better?
With those overhead poles for the light rail, wouldn't these poles be round, unless say it was converted from an electric railway with overhead?
And with the poles at the station loop on the curves, wouldn't the poles be (in this case) on the outside of the curve, ie: on the opposite side of the light rail station?
For example it looks more like that 8m track has been used on curves, even though if I remember the track is 2m.
Eidt: Paul in picture 6 (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/paulzmay/BHM/paulzmay_20100719_0003.jpg), I note that the tram line heading into the station isn't that straight, even though it would be, if real. Not sure, but would a slightly thinner light rail station be better?
With those overhead poles for the light rail, wouldn't these poles be round, unless say it was converted from an electric railway with overhead?
And with the poles at the station loop on the curves, wouldn't the poles be (in this case) on the outside of the curve, ie: on the opposite side of the light rail station?
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That's odd - I wouldn't normally use 8m track for curves, unless they were very slight. Can you point me to the location(s)?
Hadn't noticed that slight slewing of the straight track before - I expect there's room to correct it. The width of the tram stop is to suit the pitch of the arches in the road bridge.
I-beam poles are cheaper, and have been used in the UK for new light rail in Croydon (even on street in the Town Centre). The poles can be located either side of the line, so long as the steady are is under tension. My new tram pole system includes arm configured both ways. On straight line they typically alternate, and the OHL snakes from left to right to even out pantograph wear.
Paul
Red_Rattler
Since 09 May 2003
First, gee "that" company that makes Trainz has some strange ways of what is suppose to be alphabetical order. Bridgehampton comes before Bridge XXX (insert words in place of X after a space)?? 
Edit: With the first part in this post, it seems it have fixed itself up, but their are places where the track isn't that straight.
PS: Don't tell the greenies, but I gotta get rid of a tree from the middle of the main road!
I checked, and it seem to be only 2m, but for some reason it was making an angle, not a curve. It may (not that it was) have been due to only the layout and track, and some buildings downloaded first. I have a look shortly.
Not saying you should, but perhaps if the light rail station (LRS) needs to be wide, maybe add a spline to make the track look if it slightly curves to the LRS, instead of a slightly kinked straight?
Cheapstake! I never noticed that about the Croydon Tramlink before
Yep, I knew thaaat, the overhead on trains (even with bridged supports) does the same, but thanks anyway.
Edit: With the first part in this post, it seems it have fixed itself up, but their are places where the track isn't that straight.
PS: Don't tell the greenies, but I gotta get rid of a tree from the middle of the main road!
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Red_Rattler
Since 09 May 2003
At Paulzmay, an idea to change the track on the grass to more relastic tram track
Paul, on part of the tram line, you have used the tram track called "Rail Tram - 1 voie - herbe" (I'm glad you can say it, because I sure cant.). The track in a grass island.
That tram track, doesn't really look the best - at all.
Paul, have you thought of using the suitable tram track, and combining it with a grass spline, as shown in this picture: http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4115/4904383034_b1fce8a85c_b_d.jpg?
Paul, on part of the tram line, you have used the tram track called "Rail Tram - 1 voie - herbe" (I'm glad you can say it, because I sure cant.). The track in a grass island.
That tram track, doesn't really look the best - at all.
Paul, have you thought of using the suitable tram track, and combining it with a grass spline, as shown in this picture: http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4115/4904383034_b1fce8a85c_b_d.jpg?
I've never been really happy with that track (mostly because of the rail texture), but it looks like TS09/10 report it to be amongst the least frame-rate friendly, so I suspect that I'll make a new tram track base and use that instead. I expect it to resemble the grass splines in my pavement kit (i.e. Auran grass texture).
Paul
Paul
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Urban Transit Developers
Track Maps
@ Paul,
I am working on a fictional layout of subway/elevated/light rail, and I had a question regarding your planning of layouts. Do you plan/draw track maps and layouts of what you want to build first, or do you just build and improvise? I am working on track maps for my layout and I was just wondering if you had any input.
Also, do you have any recommendations for subway tunnels directly underneath light rail? A small section of my route downtown has the orange-line subway directly beneath the light rail for about seven blocks.
Thanks again!
@ Paul,
I am working on a fictional layout of subway/elevated/light rail, and I had a question regarding your planning of layouts. Do you plan/draw track maps and layouts of what you want to build first, or do you just build and improvise? I am working on track maps for my layout and I was just wondering if you had any input.
Also, do you have any recommendations for subway tunnels directly underneath light rail? A small section of my route downtown has the orange-line subway directly beneath the light rail for about seven blocks.
Thanks again!