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Hello All,
First tests of my brand new; BB18 1/4; a long term aspiration of mine to make in Trainz the Rolls Royce of Queensland Pacifics. Just some final details to add to the locomotive mesh, before I detail the tender to suit with my SKF Roller Bearing bogies.
BB18 1012 - Built by the Vulcan Foundry, Newton-Le-Willows; Great Britain 1950. Commissioned into service the 11th of July, 1951. Was a Central Division locomotive all its service based out of Rockhampton Depot. It ran until D'Day (Diesel Day) June, 1970.
With Regards,
M.Gitsham
First tests of my brand new; BB18 1/4; a long term aspiration of mine to make in Trainz the Rolls Royce of Queensland Pacifics. Just some final details to add to the locomotive mesh, before I detail the tender to suit with my SKF Roller Bearing bogies.
BB18 1012 - Built by the Vulcan Foundry, Newton-Le-Willows; Great Britain 1950. Commissioned into service the 11th of July, 1951. Was a Central Division locomotive all its service based out of Rockhampton Depot. It ran until D'Day (Diesel Day) June, 1970.
With Regards,
M.Gitsham
LittleBondi
QR Trainzer
Wrong textures on the wheels and associated parts. The wheels should have a lighter colour and should have white trim around the edge. There should be six not 4 boiler bands. I also dont get why you are remaking a locomotive that another content create i.e. GregCash, has made spot on and its compatible from trainz 04 - T:ANE.
I must also point out for the sake of originality that the textures are a little too dark. Also Michael now your using 3dsMax I suggest you check out baking!
ryanstrains
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Hey all,
A loco in this consist got lost >_>
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q97/Azervich/qmx_zpscxzrfuji.png~original
Cheers.
A loco in this consist got lost >_>
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q97/Azervich/qmx_zpscxzrfuji.png~original
Cheers.
From The Commissioners Desk.
Gentlemen,
In my response, I wish to point out that you are both incorrect on those points and I am going to take the time to make the following corrections;
Firstly, the colour shade of 'Brunswick Green' is actually rather correct from photographs of my own plus archival images that I have colour sampled and according to my Queensland Railways 1958 - Railway Workshops Paint Schemes for Locomotives, Carriages & Rollingstock. It is the lighting in locations that make it looks darker.
Secondly, to the issue raised of white tyres rims around the wheels. The matter is incorrect to assume that all locomotives of the BB18 got them, as from my images which I shall link below; depict differently from my research. As stated in John Armstrong's Locomotives In The Tropics Volume 2 & John Knowles - Design & Operation of Queensland Railways Steam Locomotives 1865-1969; Only Locomotives based out of Ipswich Depot received white walled rims around the edge of the bogies and by the Railway Workshops when a passenger locomotive had come out of it annual overhaul. Commissioners Locomotives, engines rostered on railway picnics publicity and railway tour specials were selected for the treatment. It was only after Diesel Day 1970 that locomotives still in traffic that were based at Ipswich were given the treatment. Other than that, locomotives in general service outside of the SED lacked white walled tires.
The locomotive depicted by myself in the model - BB18 1012, Commissioning Photograph by the Queensland Railways.
http://gallery3.qrig.org/members-gallery/sandygoanna/Vulcan-BB18-and-Qtr-1012-1951-1970
BB18 1012, when in general service on the Central Division; Rockhampton during the late 1960s.
http://gallery3.qrig.org/var/albums/members-gallery/Mike%20Quirk/Steam%20Depots/R_ton%20Roundhouse%201012%2015_9_67.jpg?m=1288997224
The last image is representative of the locomotive and all my other engines when in regular service in the Central Division. This engine lacks white walled tires, as it was not based at Ipswich or Mayne or even in the Central Division. As I am building locomotives that featured in the Central Division as part of my route, I shall be making them when in service from photographs I have collected or are in the RHQ Archive.
Anyways, some general comments. Yes I shall be baking when I start on my AC16, then apply to all my other locomotives in good time. I have a life outside of trainz and since I am still unpacking my objects from moving interstate. It may take some time.
The point that why do I make locomotives or content that have already been done. The person who made this comment, as already been told by the mod but I wish to make my comment clear. I build because I make content for myself and my route, if a locomotive that has already been built; I shall go about making it better with higher details, in narrow gauge and features like destination boards ect. I have permission from such creators to remake the engines, as they have since left trainz. I am building models from Trainz 12 to TANE that have either no-one has built in narrow gauge, has been build to a previous version to putting my higher standard to be placed in narrow gauge and enjoying things for myself.
Finally a screenshot; QR Heritage BB18 1079 with Steam Train Sunday entering Alderley, which it would then proceed Yeerongpilly Vis Tennyson & Corinda to return to Roma Street. August 23rd, 2001
With Regards,
M.Gitsham
Gentlemen,
In my response, I wish to point out that you are both incorrect on those points and I am going to take the time to make the following corrections;
Firstly, the colour shade of 'Brunswick Green' is actually rather correct from photographs of my own plus archival images that I have colour sampled and according to my Queensland Railways 1958 - Railway Workshops Paint Schemes for Locomotives, Carriages & Rollingstock. It is the lighting in locations that make it looks darker.
Secondly, to the issue raised of white tyres rims around the wheels. The matter is incorrect to assume that all locomotives of the BB18 got them, as from my images which I shall link below; depict differently from my research. As stated in John Armstrong's Locomotives In The Tropics Volume 2 & John Knowles - Design & Operation of Queensland Railways Steam Locomotives 1865-1969; Only Locomotives based out of Ipswich Depot received white walled rims around the edge of the bogies and by the Railway Workshops when a passenger locomotive had come out of it annual overhaul. Commissioners Locomotives, engines rostered on railway picnics publicity and railway tour specials were selected for the treatment. It was only after Diesel Day 1970 that locomotives still in traffic that were based at Ipswich were given the treatment. Other than that, locomotives in general service outside of the SED lacked white walled tires.
The locomotive depicted by myself in the model - BB18 1012, Commissioning Photograph by the Queensland Railways.
http://gallery3.qrig.org/members-gallery/sandygoanna/Vulcan-BB18-and-Qtr-1012-1951-1970
BB18 1012, when in general service on the Central Division; Rockhampton during the late 1960s.
http://gallery3.qrig.org/var/albums/members-gallery/Mike%20Quirk/Steam%20Depots/R_ton%20Roundhouse%201012%2015_9_67.jpg?m=1288997224
The last image is representative of the locomotive and all my other engines when in regular service in the Central Division. This engine lacks white walled tires, as it was not based at Ipswich or Mayne or even in the Central Division. As I am building locomotives that featured in the Central Division as part of my route, I shall be making them when in service from photographs I have collected or are in the RHQ Archive.
Anyways, some general comments. Yes I shall be baking when I start on my AC16, then apply to all my other locomotives in good time. I have a life outside of trainz and since I am still unpacking my objects from moving interstate. It may take some time.
The point that why do I make locomotives or content that have already been done. The person who made this comment, as already been told by the mod but I wish to make my comment clear. I build because I make content for myself and my route, if a locomotive that has already been built; I shall go about making it better with higher details, in narrow gauge and features like destination boards ect. I have permission from such creators to remake the engines, as they have since left trainz. I am building models from Trainz 12 to TANE that have either no-one has built in narrow gauge, has been build to a previous version to putting my higher standard to be placed in narrow gauge and enjoying things for myself.
Finally a screenshot; QR Heritage BB18 1079 with Steam Train Sunday entering Alderley, which it would then proceed Yeerongpilly Vis Tennyson & Corinda to return to Roma Street. August 23rd, 2001
With Regards,
M.Gitsham
LittleBondi
QR Trainzer
Good Evening,
I stand corrected on the wheel trims however, I continue to point out that your "Brunswick Green" is to dark for the locomotive.
Below is a photo sourced from Weston Langford's site showing BB18 1/4 1079 at Ilfracombe in 2009. Not the lighter colour to the green. It is also the accurate colour because this locomotive was recently overhauled before this tour took place. Also note the difference in the colour from the engine frame and wheel's. The wheels appear slightly lighter and more weathered then the frame.
Below is a photo of BB18 1/4 1030, a Central Division loco as you claim you are basing your loco's on. Once again as above, the colour is not as dark as your's and the colours are much more varied in the greys and blacks. Must I also add in that you are lacking smaller detail such as the hand rail's on the side of the cab. And before you say anything about Ipswich locomotives, I am referring to BB18 1030, as seen below before leading a goods train down the Mount Morgan line. Once again, photo is courtesy from Weston Langford's website and I take no responsibility or owenership of these photo's.
So Mr Gitsham, I come to a conclusion that either you lighten up your textures or the loco won't look the part. May I suggest not waiting to bake your AC16's and go back and redo everything but instead put some more time and effort and take some constructive criticism and present a finished locomotive that you wont have to go back and redo and bake later. I see the locomotive has potential in it but it's still got a little while to go.
Thank You and have a good evening.
I stand corrected on the wheel trims however, I continue to point out that your "Brunswick Green" is to dark for the locomotive.
Below is a photo sourced from Weston Langford's site showing BB18 1/4 1079 at Ilfracombe in 2009. Not the lighter colour to the green. It is also the accurate colour because this locomotive was recently overhauled before this tour took place. Also note the difference in the colour from the engine frame and wheel's. The wheels appear slightly lighter and more weathered then the frame.
Below is a photo of BB18 1/4 1030, a Central Division loco as you claim you are basing your loco's on. Once again as above, the colour is not as dark as your's and the colours are much more varied in the greys and blacks. Must I also add in that you are lacking smaller detail such as the hand rail's on the side of the cab. And before you say anything about Ipswich locomotives, I am referring to BB18 1030, as seen below before leading a goods train down the Mount Morgan line. Once again, photo is courtesy from Weston Langford's website and I take no responsibility or owenership of these photo's.
So Mr Gitsham, I come to a conclusion that either you lighten up your textures or the loco won't look the part. May I suggest not waiting to bake your AC16's and go back and redo everything but instead put some more time and effort and take some constructive criticism and present a finished locomotive that you wont have to go back and redo and bake later. I see the locomotive has potential in it but it's still got a little while to go.
Thank You and have a good evening.
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trainfan2017
Active member
The Karrah Bay container depot looks a lot better than mine!
Do you slip points work okay? When I changed the track on mine if i was to go over that it would venture off down the slip and derail.
Cheers
David
Do you slip points work okay? When I changed the track on mine if i was to go over that it would venture off down the slip and derail.
Cheers
David
SARRailways
Member
Those are some great looking V/Line coaches guys. Love seeing the detail in some of these shots.
G'day all,
Not continuing the sh*t war but. The Mackay based locos had white trims around the wheels and they were central division locos. I understand you have a life outside of Trainz, Spending a lot of my time working on BB18 1/4 - 1037 really makes you appreciate these machines! That is why I started building my own PB15 (Post photos soon).
Cheers,
Not continuing the sh*t war but. The Mackay based locos had white trims around the wheels and they were central division locos. I understand you have a life outside of Trainz, Spending a lot of my time working on BB18 1/4 - 1037 really makes you appreciate these machines! That is why I started building my own PB15 (Post photos soon).
Cheers,
What Container wagons are theyHey all,
A loco in this consist got lost >_>
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q97/Azervich/qmx_zpscxzrfuji.png~original
Cheers.
Cheers,
Patchy
