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happy to wait - they'll be awesome when they arrive.
BTW you might want to check your references re the compressor - its actually indented into a flat on the side of the smokebox :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Arhs_5711_junee.jpg
ps - will you be animating the conjugating gear on the 57 ?
Hi Pete,
I just downloaded your updated K class e-spec 63971:51153:1 from dls a few mins ago and cmp gives me these
There basicly the most importaint tags for a TC+ e-spec
I have a feeling it's probably going to do 10,000 kph in regulator 5%, I'll see how it runs anyways.
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Doesn't seem to effect performance at all
-Aaron
I just downloaded your updated K class e-spec 63971:51153:1 from dls a few mins ago and cmp gives me these
Code:
Warning: Required tag 'blower-effect' was missing and has been set to default.
Warning: Required tag 'blower-max-flow' was missing and has been set to default.
Warning: Required tag 'boiler-efficency' was missing and has been set to default.
Warning: Required tag 'boiler-efficency-idle' was missing and has been set to default.
Warning: Required tag 'boiler-efficency-min' was missing and has been set to default.
Warning: Required tag 'cutoff' was missing and has been set to default.
Warning: Required tag 'firebox-heating-surface-area' was missing and has been set to default.
Warning: Required tag 'ideal-coal-mass' was missing and has been set to default.
Warning: Required tag 'max-coal-mass' was missing and has been set to default.
Warning: Required tag 'speed' was missing and has been set to default.
Warning: Required tag 'steam-chest-max-flow' was missing and has been set to default.
Warning: Required tag 'steam-chest-volume' was missing and has been set to default.
Warning: Required tag 'super-heating-constant' was missing and has been set to default.
Warning: Required tag 'valve-lap-percent' was missing and has been set to default.There basicly the most importaint tags for a TC+ e-spec
I have a feeling it's probably going to do 10,000 kph in regulator 5%, I'll see how it runs anyways.
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Doesn't seem to effect performance at all
-Aaron
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Hi Stan,
I must have plans of the very early version, both of which don't show that sort of smoke box. I was aware there was a smoke box like that, but was beginning to think it might have been a 58 class thing.
I have been very fortunate, in that Billegulla has helped me here and yes the main bogey is fully animated including the conjugating gear.
I will probably remodel the firebox
I must have plans of the very early version, both of which don't show that sort of smoke box. I was aware there was a smoke box like that, but was beginning to think it might have been a 58 class thing.
I have been very fortunate, in that Billegulla has helped me here and yes the main bogey is fully animated including the conjugating gear.
I will probably remodel the firebox
ZecMurphy
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Hi Pete,
I just downloaded your updated K class e-spec 63971:51153:1 from dls a few mins ago and cmp gives me these
There basicly the most importaint tags for a TC+ e-specCode:Warning: Required tag 'blower-effect' was missing and has been set to default. Warning: Required tag 'blower-max-flow' was missing and has been set to default. Warning: Required tag 'boiler-efficency' was missing and has been set to default. Warning: Required tag 'boiler-efficency-idle' was missing and has been set to default. Warning: Required tag 'boiler-efficency-min' was missing and has been set to default. Warning: Required tag 'cutoff' was missing and has been set to default. Warning: Required tag 'firebox-heating-surface-area' was missing and has been set to default. Warning: Required tag 'ideal-coal-mass' was missing and has been set to default. Warning: Required tag 'max-coal-mass' was missing and has been set to default. Warning: Required tag 'speed' was missing and has been set to default. Warning: Required tag 'steam-chest-max-flow' was missing and has been set to default. Warning: Required tag 'steam-chest-volume' was missing and has been set to default. Warning: Required tag 'super-heating-constant' was missing and has been set to default. Warning: Required tag 'valve-lap-percent' was missing and has been set to default.
I have a feeling it's probably going to do 10,000 kph in regulator 5%, I'll see how it runs anyways.
-Aaron
That would be because the update only updated them to TC1/2 and no higher (understandably, the loco's themselves are only setup for the older Especs). Understandable, since they would have been updated only to remove errors, and not to actually upgrade them to TC3+
Zec
That would be because the update only updated them to TC1/2 and no higher (understandably, the loco's themselves are only setup for the older Especs). Understandable, since they would have been updated only to remove errors, and not to actually upgrade them to TC3+
Zec
Hi Zec,
There goes my wishful thinking up an updated e-spec for his nice steamers
.Billegulla
New member
Have a look at "Spreadsheet for Universal 09 steam e-specs" in the freeware forum.
Bill.
Bill.
that is probably it - when first built they had the compressors mid way down the footplate on the fireman's side.. until they realisied that a rod fracture could take out the compressors... could have been quite messy coming down the blue mountains!
looking forward to seeing teh model in action - that conjugating gear will be a wonder to watch... it certainly was on some of Col Shepherd's O guage models
The smoke box has been amended, the cutaway was there, the line was so fine I missed it.
Although the gear was covered by a cowling on the 58 class there were inspection ports on the side and front of the cowling and I did see a phot which was suggestive of two round holes on the top of the cowling, so I might make it with the inspection ports open on that.
you are right about the gear, I sit and watch it for ages in gmax
cheers
pete
Although the gear was covered by a cowling on the 58 class there were inspection ports on the side and front of the cowling and I did see a phot which was suggestive of two round holes on the top of the cowling, so I might make it with the inspection ports open on that.
you are right about the gear, I sit and watch it for ages in gmax
cheers
pete
702 Charges into Melton Valley
And crosses 752 waiting to depart.
She then rolls onto the turntable
Then rolls off,Oh dear!
752 rolls out of Melton Valley as viewed from my hotel balcony.
Charging over the Level crossing.
Melton Valley Yard basks in the morning sun.
.. The Twilight..
and finally in the moonlight.
Your abit late mate
dont get too mesmorised - I suspect there is now more than a few of us itching to get memorised too...
wonder if there is a suitable sound file? the stock 3 cylender one is ok, but I think a more solid bassier one would suit it better..
Hi, some more work in progress screenies of a QRN CLP 13 leading a CLF 3:
the QRN CLP 13:
and the CLF 3:
The yellow colour of the QRN CLP 13 is the shade of colour on its nose, sunlight and specular brighten it somewhat in TS09 (where this screen shot was taken) as I had the sun brighten it for a better picture. But this brightness is to a much lesser degree in TS10, where the specular display is turned down somewhat.
The QRN CLP still needs some minor details fixed and 3 more LODs implemented. The CLF Class is almost done but will be released after the CLP Class ones are finished. A maroon and silver Oz Nat and a green+gold Oz Nat still do be done. As well as some CL Class ones without the hump over the cab.
I noticed there has been an Oz Nat green and gold version of the CLF Class with the same green colour shade painted as the green/gold/silver CLPs, without the yellow large striping nor the silver on it. It has the old yellow OzNat panel on either side, I have a picture to prove it and as one can see, with different green colouring to the other following OzNat CLF:
Does anyone know more of this or any pictures of this or similar coloured CLF Class perhaps? Thanking in advance for your troubles :wave:
Cheers
VinnyBarb
the QRN CLP 13:
and the CLF 3:
The yellow colour of the QRN CLP 13 is the shade of colour on its nose, sunlight and specular brighten it somewhat in TS09 (where this screen shot was taken) as I had the sun brighten it for a better picture. But this brightness is to a much lesser degree in TS10, where the specular display is turned down somewhat.
The QRN CLP still needs some minor details fixed and 3 more LODs implemented. The CLF Class is almost done but will be released after the CLP Class ones are finished. A maroon and silver Oz Nat and a green+gold Oz Nat still do be done. As well as some CL Class ones without the hump over the cab.
I noticed there has been an Oz Nat green and gold version of the CLF Class with the same green colour shade painted as the green/gold/silver CLPs, without the yellow large striping nor the silver on it. It has the old yellow OzNat panel on either side, I have a picture to prove it and as one can see, with different green colouring to the other following OzNat CLF:
Does anyone know more of this or any pictures of this or similar coloured CLF Class perhaps? Thanking in advance for your troubles :wave:
Cheers
VinnyBarb
NSWGR_46Class
Just call my Captain Rude
Hi mate great work on the CLP/CLF I hope the CL is just as good, IIRC these were the first 3000hp locos in Aussieland.
The 2 green and yellow locos in the last photo I think you will find are both the same colour they just look diffrent due to the low angle of the sun as can been seen in the reflection on the first unit.
Hi, some more work in progress screenies of a QRN CLP 13 leading a CLF 3:
I noticed there has been an Oz Nat green and gold version of the CLF Class with the same green colour shade painted as the green/gold/silver CLPs, without the yellow large striping nor the silver on it. It has the old yellow OzNat panel on either side, I have a picture to prove it and as one can see, with different green colouring to the other following OzNat CLF:
Does anyone know more of this or any pictures of this or similar coloured CLF Class perhaps? Thanking in advance for your troubles :wave:
Cheers
VinnyBarb
Not sure what you mean Vinny?
However your picture shows two CLF's in their original (and only) Australia National paint scheme.
Ok their were some paint scheme differences. First paints had a grey roof and bright yellow bogies,
But they soon stopped doing that because of the weathering effect of two weeks out on the track. Their nice paint was lost to view very quickly.
They also used a "lemon twist" rear end paint. I think that was lost over time as well. I know the GM's got the bogies, roof and lemon twist, however the CLF's came much later and may not have received these bits.
In all my years watching these things, I never saw much variation in colour values (apart from fading) Dulux kept supplying the right mix, in my humble opinion.
Nice stuff Vinny
Never heard the symbol being called OzNat?? Must be a South Australia thing
It was respectfully called the AN logo in every modelling group or even on the job, here in Victoria. (Ah soapbox? ... where did I put that thing??)
Respectfully?... Why yes of course. Everybody knew that Australia National bosses were real Railway people. AN was going great. Keating (the best Liberal PM Australia ever had Grrrr!!)
Shut down the best chance Australia ever had to run a National Railway, and replaced it with the bloody morons that started up National Rail. As a management team their record presents us with actual proof that they were in total, the biggest bunch of losers, any Railway organisation had to put up with. Want part of the proof? Ask me about share dividends? I would not own any, but my Super does
Cheers
Rod
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Hi Bill,
I started using your spread sheet for updating locally modified e-specs about 2 months ago, I do have a problem in reverse, the lack of power in the strokes and it staters allot "only in reverse" I've tried using piston-angler-offset in a nagative values but no change, The reason why I was hoping for updated e-specs for Petes content is for Multiplayer "all local modified content is reverted to original" before joining a session so basicly all updates have to be done be the original author
Hi Vinnybarb
I only remember CLF's being in AN Green/Yellow, I use to watch them pass by as a kid when they first built the Standard Gauge in Geelong, allot of the time it was AN Green/Yellow CLF and AN BL, sometimes AN CLF and V/Line G class, or AN CLF and V/Line C Class, few times it'll be AN DL class with a CLF
Here is an original pic on PJV site taken from 1996
I use to have my own pics but lost most of them when I moved house in 2001
-Aaron
I started using your spread sheet for updating locally modified e-specs about 2 months ago, I do have a problem in reverse, the lack of power in the strokes and it staters allot "only in reverse" I've tried using piston-angler-offset in a nagative values but no change, The reason why I was hoping for updated e-specs for Petes content is for Multiplayer "all local modified content is reverted to original" before joining a session so basicly all updates have to be done be the original author
Hi Vinnybarb
I only remember CLF's being in AN Green/Yellow, I use to watch them pass by as a kid when they first built the Standard Gauge in Geelong, allot of the time it was AN Green/Yellow CLF and AN BL, sometimes AN CLF and V/Line G class, or AN CLF and V/Line C Class, few times it'll be AN DL class with a CLF
Here is an original pic on PJV site taken from 1996
I use to have my own pics but lost most of them when I moved house in 2001
-Aaron
G'day Vinny,
The Maroon and Silver livery was never applied to the CLF or P's, but only the original CL's themselves. IIRC they had two different letterings in this scheme, 'Commonwealth Railways' and 'Australian National Railways'. The CL has a few differences to the rebuilt version, included single marker lights, horn on the nose, a few grills missing etc. The CL was also painted into the Green&Gold livery as applied to the CLF you mention below...
During their time with Australian National, the CLF only wore that scheme and the CLP only wore the silver/green/gold scheme. I believe the reasoning behind this was the Silver scheme was to match the Ghan pass cars (CLP=Pass, has the HEP at the back) whilst the plain green&gold was just AN's corporate colours (CLF=Freight, no HEP).
Hope this helps you out a bit. Here's another pic of the CLF in it's later days (hence removed AN logos) before being repainted into G&W's orange and black scheme:
CL Class in it's G&G paint:
CL Class in original M&S:
Tom
The Maroon and Silver livery was never applied to the CLF or P's, but only the original CL's themselves. IIRC they had two different letterings in this scheme, 'Commonwealth Railways' and 'Australian National Railways'. The CL has a few differences to the rebuilt version, included single marker lights, horn on the nose, a few grills missing etc. The CL was also painted into the Green&Gold livery as applied to the CLF you mention below...
I noticed there has been an Oz Nat green and gold version of the CLF Class with the same green colour shade painted as the green/gold/silver CLPs, without the yellow large striping nor the silver on it. It has the old yellow OzNat panel on either side, I have a picture to prove it and as one can see, with different green colouring to the other following OzNat CLF:
During their time with Australian National, the CLF only wore that scheme and the CLP only wore the silver/green/gold scheme. I believe the reasoning behind this was the Silver scheme was to match the Ghan pass cars (CLP=Pass, has the HEP at the back) whilst the plain green&gold was just AN's corporate colours (CLF=Freight, no HEP).
Hope this helps you out a bit. Here's another pic of the CLF in it's later days (hence removed AN logos) before being repainted into G&W's orange and black scheme:
CL Class in it's G&G paint:
CL Class in original M&S:
Tom
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