An interesting picture

AndreaLuigi

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From an American fried I got a couple of days ago this picture. It show an Italian steamer class 480 under the colours of the Goat Company, Great Northern. Further investigations reported that a single locomotive of this 2-10-0 Decapod class has been transfered into North America at the end of WWII and showed up together with the other German locomotives at Ft. Monroe.
Differently from what happened to the German steamer, which has been dismantled, the 480 has been sold to a banchline in Nebraska successivelly absorbed by Great Nrthern.
In the picture the 480, renumbered 4801, with the Goat emblem on the tender as seen ad a remote Junction of GN system.
Thanks to Osvald Overseen for his great contribution to railroad history.

 
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The game is afoot, Watson!

It sounds like a good challenge. Can we document the origin of this picture? It seems like it would be a little expensive to drag an engine back from Italy when we had so many surplus engines in America at the time. The shape and position of the logo also looks a little off to me.
On the other hand, it would be fun if we could document an actual Italian main line engine in America.

:cool: Claude
 
I know of only one German steamer which was taken back to America following the war, 19 1001. This was more or less an experimental one which instead of having your typical cylinder arrangement had four sets of two cylinders upright in a Vee (think Harley engine). Two sets were on each side of the frame and the drive wheels (8 in all) were connected by means of gears. It was built for express service and was meant to achieve speeds in excess of 180km/h, following the war it was brought to America and tested there for a few years, whereafter it was unfortunately scrapped. I've long been curious if there are other German steamers still running (or that used to run) in America, I wouldn't be too surprised if there still is one in existence on the other side of the pond.

WileeCoyote:D
 
yes I agreee about that logo, its awfully sharp and focussed whereas the rest of the image is in condition of the time it was taken.

looks like a shonky to me.

nice looking loco tho
 
The logo does looks very strange and out of place....:confused:

I'm not buying this story, not by a long shot.:o :sleep:

Cheers,
Adam
 
I know of only one German steamer which was taken back to America following the war, 19 1001. This was more or less an experimental one which instead of having your typical cylinder arrangement had four sets of two cylinders upright in a Vee (think Harley engine)...
WileeCoyote:D

That's a steam motor. Here's a link with more info (plus the loco you described). http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/steamotor/steamotor.htm

Has anyone made the Class 480 decapod for Trainz?

:cool: Claude
 
Upon further inspection, one sees no knuckle coupler on the front end of the locomotive, and no bell as required by US law (when the Flying Scotsman was in the USA it was equipped with a bell.)

Although the logo is quite obviously photoshopped, I think it's safe to say this was not taken in the US. Are you sure you didn't get this on April 1st? :hehe:

Still a neat little locomotive :)
 
plus there is no head light just those ditch light things also if you zoom in on the track in its self you will notice that the track is bolted not spiked like it is in america.
 
I clicked on the picture, and it took me to the "Da Vinci Rails" site, which is well-known for conjuring up fictional locomotives. Look around, and you'll also find diagrams of the "huge boy," "Ye Big Fella," "Ironclad," and other notoriously large and clearly fictional locomotives.

this one is, obviously, a big phony.
 
I think now would be a good time to announce that I'm founding an organization called "Rivet Counters Anonymous"... :p
 
Translation

Jack, this is the translation of the paragraphs below the pic right after you hit the picture. (This has been done with Google Translate)

A photograph collector on Da Vinci Rail.
Few know that at the end of the Second World War the American armed might in the United States led some German locomotives for study and evaluate. Among these the prototype of Br 19.1 (with the locomotive engines axial V and a copy of Br. With 52 tender condensing.

Even less known is the story of a 480 Gr force as a reserve in the deposit of Fortress and used for emergency services on line Brenner.
In 1945 she was requisitioned and boarded in Genoa to be in the United States where it was exhibited along with other prey war in Ft. Monroe.
While the German machines were dismantled and then torn down, the interest towards our 480 was much more competitive.
It was sold for the classic pipe tobacco at field level Winnemucca & Western, later absorbed by the Great Northern, passed the limited fleet to the latter.
The machine, rimarcata 4801 and with the emblem of the tender goat played an honored service still for a few years at the port of Rabarber Junction and was removed only in 1952, towards the end of the steam service of this company.
I thank my friend Osvald Overseen of Portland, Oregon, for having sent this faded photos of our car in a foreign land.
Osvald, who knew the pavanati during his American trip, I was contacted in the past this photo taken by his father with a Kodak Retina I to 1949. The document is that they can not stay in a drawer.

Taking a look at the home page I have found a link to the English Website.
Take a look around there as well.

This is a definate phony.:sleep: :sleep:

Cheers,
Adam
 
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