9000 Dollar Drivel

[Blackfingers]

On the TS2009 DLS Routes they are some new additions from '9000 Dollar'.
One can't help wondering what Auran are playing at in allowing such drivel to be accepted, much less remain on the DLS.
These 'routes' do nothing to add to the gameplay; their presence is simply an an insult to the many great route builders whom have made Trainz such a wonderful pastime.
Wake up Auran before you lose all the serious folk who have kept you afloat these last few years!

 

[cascaderailroad]

Download them, laugh at them, and delete them:hehe:

I bet Auran is swamped with hundereds of shoddy/questionable uploads weekly, and have barely the time to preview each and every one, and decide whether it is up to par.

Bigger things are going on Downunder, at Auran (Sept 1st). I think I will be purchasing 09, or 10 shortly

 

[rsd15atsf]

But the smokinator is my favorite trainz!

 

[paulzmay]

I suspect that there never has been any filter for quality of content, even when content was checked manually on upload. I suspect that very few folks have bothered to upload stuff that they felt was lacking, and that this kind of self censorship / quality control has worked fairly well over the years.

Obviously, now and again someone decides that they enjoy uploading more than spending time and effort on creations. Hopefully if we ignore them, they will go away...

Paul

p.s. Is anyone really going to throw their toys out of the pram over this? Especially as the DLS seems to be accepting uploads pretty reliably at the moment (finds somehing wooden to touch).

 

[sniper297]

We had this discussion years ago over at trainsim.com, when some kid started uploading sloppy repaints that looked worse than Rosie O'Donnell. Well, maybe not that bad. :hehe: Problem there is who judges? I upload a pink and purple SD40, most guys wouldn't want it - but my granddaughter would love it, and there might be many more like her. Start rejecting stuff based on quality standards and there's no end to it, you would always have different people arguing that this should have made it in, this should have been rejected, are you blind? Kill the umpire!

No, I would just ignore it, those who like it will download, those who don't won't. Makes it a PITA searching for diamonds in all the garbage, but use the content manager filter;

Category - Routes
AND NOT
Author - 9000dollar

That works.

 

[motorbreath]

I just want to know how many people have downloaded "pinkeye chicenpox1". And when is pinkeye chicenpox2 going to be released?

 

[Electro]

This thread is Dribble

ANY ONE can do what they like for trainz and upload it to the DLS,

It's what this Sim is all about.
I think some people on the forum have to much time on there hands to complain about the least little thing.


just my 5c worth.

 

[Ronayne]

My opinion

I do agree with some folks here.

If we started becoming picky with the content uploaded to the DLS, we wouldn't have much. I doubt Auran/N3V/Neverfail (whatever they are called) would preview each asset, seeing as they are busy creating snow cat simulators and frame rate munchers.

EDIT: I just saw some of his content on the DLS, despite what I said above, HOLY TOLEDO!!!
A route with only track!? Maybe we should have standards for content...

~ Chris, :wave:

 

[ZecMurphy]

busy creating snow cat simulators

Remember, we are also publishers (note, take a look through the N3V Games store, there are many games in there, the majority of which were developed/produced by other companies). In the case of the new 'simulator' series, these are mostly created by a company called UIG Entertainment, and not by us. We simply sell them through our store. Some of them have sold quite well too

As for frame rate munching, I get good frame rates on my PC (Core2Quad 2.8GHz, 4GB RAM, GTX260 1792MB, Win 7 Ult 64bit). Granted, not everyone has a higher end machine, but then it should be expected that newer games do require newer spec computers (imagine if the latest Need For Speed games needed to run on machines that NFS Hot Pursuit 2 ran on... - note this version chosen since it does date from a similar time period as the original Trainz releases for a similar development period).

You'll find that a big part of frame rate is that we have to support 3rd party content (20k poly cars, with 15 odd textures, and no LOD anyone?). Granted, the built-in content tends to avoid this (so as to not require $10k computers to run it...). Also remember, the minimum spec is the minimum required. You'll likely need to turn the detail settings down (I still can't run a fair few of the FPS games, which tend to have very short draw distances, at max detail).

As for DLS content. As has been said, if we implemented a minimum standard, you might find a lot of content doesn't go through (seeing as what might be my minimum standard, is much higher than your minimum standard, and might be higher than what some people may be capable of doing when starting out).

Granted, some 'rubbish' (again, what I consider rubbish will be different to what others think of as rubbish, aka one mans trash is another's treasure!) does get through. But, if someone can find a use for it, then (personally) it was worth it. Even if it is for an 'easter egg' on their layout You never know, you may just download a layout that uses one of this person's ground textures to an interesting effect (much like I've seen maps with a ground texture that has big red writing on it saying "EMPTY SPACE" in some spots). And then you might just be glad it got left there...

A good example is Paintshed reskins. Sure, they may not be your cup of tea, but if someone gets enjoyment out of a creation, then it's generally worth it.

 

[IsambardKingdomBrunel]

I don't like model railway layouts or fake railroads, which are all junk to me.

But i wouldn't ask for them to be removed.

Some poor fool must get enjoyment out of them.

IKB.

 

[axe1970]

"To each his own"

 

[IsambardKingdomBrunel]

Hey axe man any thoughts on your extending G to TR. Love it as it is, but would be good with another 100 miles of mainline.

IKB.

 

[mattm]

I don't like model railway layouts or fake railroads, which are all junk to me.

Hey axe man any thoughts on your extending G to TR. Love it as it is, but would be good with another 100 miles of mainline.

IKB.

That's not slightly contradictory, is it? Georgetown to Train Rocks falls into the 'junk' category with you, being a 'fake' railroad, as you call the fictional routes which would probably make up a large portion of routes on the DLS.

So would yo care to elaborate on that first statement, as to what defines a 'fake' railroad?

Matt.

 

[IsambardKingdomBrunel]

Not contradictory at all boy.

G to TR is an auzzie themed route, where proto locos and stock can be run.

It's not a town trainset around and around layout, or a layout created with fictitious locos and rollingstock.

Same with UMR2010, a very good US themed end to end route, which i enjoy a hell of a lot.

Next question.........?

IKB.

 

[nuni727]

I believe nobody noticed the asset poo?:hehe:

 

[mattm]

Not contradictory at all boy.

G to TR is an auzzie themed route, where proto locos and stock can be run.

It's not a town trainset around and around layout, or a layout created with fictitious locos and rollingstock.

Same with UMR2010, a very good US themed end to end route, which i enjoy a hell of a lot.

Next question.........?

IKB.

Fair enough,

It was just a question. I was only wondering how you defined a 'fake' railroad, is all. When i saw 'fake', i assumed you meant fictitious routes, based around real companies, of which there are a good few on the DLS, most of them half-decent works, including Axe's work.

To Nuni,

Yes, i've noticed the various assets uploaded by the member in question, and for the most part i ignore them. I have downloaded one or two, and deleted them.

Matt.

 

[sniper297]

Some poor fool

And here I am! :wave: Main reason I prefer "fake" routes is because prototypes can be boring - detail the Illinois Central with miles and miles and miles of single track on relatively flat ground all the way from Chicago to Springfield, broken only by occasional sidings and spurs, you've faithfully created the real world, yawn. For me the important thing is the trackplan be INTERESTING with intense operating potential.

 

[IsambardKingdomBrunel]

Fair enough,

It was just a question. I was only wondering how you defined a 'fake' railroad, is all. When i saw 'fake', i assumed you meant fictitious routes, based around real companies, of which there are a good few on the DLS, most of them half-decent works, including Axe's work.

Matt.

No problem Matt, it was just a reply.

Yes i agree completely. The Axe man's route is brilliant and i would love to see him extend it.

UMR2010 for me is an ideal USA themed route, as it has plenty of mainline running mileage for those long long freight services.

In regards 9000 Dollars efforts, they are not for me. Nor are 90% of the routes\layouts on the DLS. But to dismiss his efforts with the word "drivel", is extremely harsh. Do we know how old he is, he could be very young and doing his best.

As to Jim's post.....hiya mate. His sort of route with the fantasy rolling stock and locos is a million miles, from what i enjoy.

But he enjoys creating the fantasy and others enjoy using his work.

So good luck to him and i would never denigrate in a personal manner, what he creates.

IKB.

 

[Red_Rattler]

First, fiction is not the same as fake.

This thread is Dribble

Then why make post in it? (And you would have known what the thread is about by the title, and yes I also say that he uploads garbage.

ANY ONE can do what they like for trainz and upload it to the DLS

Not when it breaches copyright. See below

As for DLS content. As has been said, if we implemented a minimum standard, you might find a lot of content doesn't go through (seeing as what might be my minimum standard, is much higher than your minimum standard

Yet 9000dollar's Nintendo item has breached their copyright, and Nintendo would not have given their permission to upload their what-ever-it-called.

 

[IsambardKingdomBrunel]

Fake or fiction, who gives a rats arse.

I know what i mean.

IKB.