Windows 7 64bit and trainz 2006

[johnwhelan]

yes, but my machine (cpu 1.61 ghz) cant handle 2010, or can it? i plan on using 2009

TRS2006 only runs on one core, you have two. TS2010 can use both. TRS2006 can use a maximum of 2 gigs of memory, TS2010 under a 64 bit operating system can make use of 4 gigs of memory.

TS2010 uses speedtree to render trees, TS2009 doesn't have speedtree. TS2010 puts more work on to the GPU which isn't used so heavily in TRS2006.

There have been a fair number of updates to take advantage of TS2010 including ones to get rid of errors so basically you expect longer viewing distances and better frame rates in TS2010 native mode than TRS2006.

Cheerio John

 

[RadPig94]

what should i use then, 2010 or 2009? does speedtree require alot of power?

 

[johnwhelan]

what should i use then, 2010 or 2009? does speedtree require alot of power?

My personal view would be to go with TS2010, Speedtree has an efficient rendering engine that runs mainly on the GPU. Also there is slightly more content for TS2010 than TS2009.

Cheerio John

 

[RadPig94]

My personal view would be to go with TS2010, Speedtree has an efficient rendering engine that runs mainly on the GPU. Also there is slightly more content for TS2010 than TS2009.

Cheerio John

but my GPU is integrated (for now though) wouldn't that make a difference?

 

[johnwhelan]

but my GPU is integrated (for now though) wouldn't that make a difference?

Your GPU has things called pipes, these are roughly the equivalent of cpu cores except you have many more of them and Trainz is set up to use them in a parallel mode.

So a dedicated GPU is more useful, even a low end one from newegg.com would be nice if only because the memory access is much better, but reality is TS2010 will run and use integrated graphics. Choose your content with a bit of care, set the performance sliders down a bit, the default distance in TRS2006 is 2,000 meters, TS2010 I think is 5,000 meters but it should work.

Currently I quite like the Radeon HD 5670, its not too expensive and has directx 11 which isn't needed for Trainz by the way.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...e-gtx-560-ti-gaming-graphics-card,2857-2.html

If you look up the last page it has the Intel integrated graphics in for comparison.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...e-gtx-560-ti-gaming-graphics-card,2857-7.html

Cheerio John

 

[RadPig94]

I read that 2006 runs on GPU more than CPU, will this work great?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261056

 

[Gandalf0444]

I read that 2006 runs on GPU more than CPU, will this work great?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261056

I think that car would run TS2010 decently. Of course a certain use may come along and try and sell you something that you do not need at all.
I run this in my machine.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133343&Tpk=PNY GTS 450
It isn't top of the line of course, but it is slightly newer and from a company I had heard off so I went for it.
However all of this doesn't take into account of your budget(For example mine takes a minimum 400W PSU while the one you shows takes a minimum of 300W, so that may require an upgrade to). My budget was small so I could only go so far as I already have a 500W PSU I was in the clear...your budget maybe smaller then mine, if that is the case then the card you choose will suit you well for a fair amount of time. The difference between them is smaller then most, hence the very slight price difference, but still a good buy either way

 

[RadPig94]

yes my budget is very small, and i dont plan running anything new, i play older PC games such as IL-2: 1946 and Trainz '04-'06, i'm not a guy who plays all the new games, even if a new game from a series i like comes out i buy the console version or just forget buying it

 

[johnwhelan]

I read that 2006 runs on GPU more than CPU, will this work great?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261056

TRS2004 and TRS2006 use the cpu most of the time and would only run on one of your cores. TS2010 makes better use of the GPU and will run on both cores.

To get better frame rates and performance for the minimum risk, spend and least complication I'd buy a copy of TS2010. If you add a GPU or graphics card you'll need to reinstall the operating system so you get rid of any old driver traces otherwise you won't see an improvement in performance. You also need to check your power supply is sufficient to run the new card, you may do expensive damage to the computer if it isn't. Some people have managed to edit the registry to remove old driver traces successfully but its not something I'd attempt.

Cheerio John

 

[RadPig94]

what?! reinstall the os? but the make of the graphics card is the same make of the integrated one, wouldn't all i have to do is disable the integrated and get the NVIDIA website to detect and update the new GPU?

 

[johnwhelan]

what?! reinstall the os? but the make of the graphics card is the same make of the integrated one, wouldn't all i have to do is disable the integrated and get the NVIDIA website to detect and update the new GPU?

If they are both nVidia you should be fine, normally the integrated graphics are Intel and that would probably give you a driver problem.

I suspect TRS2006 with a new graphics card still won't give you the frame rates that you'll get from native mode and TS2010 on the existing hardware.

Have fun

Cheerio John

 

[RadPig94]

If they are both nVidia you should be fine, normally the integrated graphics are Intel and that would probably give you a driver problem.

I suspect TRS2006 with a new graphics card still won't give you the frame rates that you'll get from native mode and TS2010 on the existing hardware.

Have fun

Cheerio John

ok thx, now i'm just waiting for the card to come in, hopefully within 2 weeks