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Why wont trainz 2012 work properly.
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There is no heat issue on my system because there are 6 fans running. 4 to blow cool air in, 2 to blow hot air out. They are on a separate power unit from an old system. Connected it with the power unit in my system so it will startup direct when i start the computer. These fans dont consume any power from my system. The only ones are the cpu and mb fans that are controlled by the mb. Evenso with the gpu fan. And specialy there is a second fan to take out the hot air.
Have filters placed in front of the air intake to stop dust in the computer.
Every 3 months i check to see if there is dust in my computer case, cleanup the filters and fans. So bye bye thermal issue.
btw there is an sound alarm set wen the heat is going up.
Have filters placed in front of the air intake to stop dust in the computer.
Every 3 months i check to see if there is dust in my computer case, cleanup the filters and fans. So bye bye thermal issue.
btw there is an sound alarm set wen the heat is going up.
sound like a video problem.
If you read the earlier posts then you could see that there are no video problems.
To MartinvK
When i drive a route it seems that after a while ts12 is crashing due:
trainz caused an Access Violation (0xc0000005)
in module trainz.exe at 001b:0042050d.
(error crash report)
If you read the earlier posts then you could see that there are no video problems.
To MartinvK
When i drive a route it seems that after a while ts12 is crashing due:
trainz caused an Access Violation (0xc0000005)
in module trainz.exe at 001b:0042050d.
(error crash report)
Has one of those. Used to keep it out back in a shed, along with the ch burner....
To MartinvK
I have made a route.
Made 30 sections north, 2 west, 30 south, 2 east lay on the track, nothing else. Put a loc on it and save it. (SD40 UP)
Then drive it 39 mph. after about 3/4 the train derails without no reason. The track is straight, all connected, no defects at all.
Deleted the route.
Made a new route with a diff name. The same layout but other track. 2 tr concrete. Also after a 3/4 round the train derails without no reason at all.
Put other track on it, same thing happend.
I really dont now what is going on here. Is it a bug, or something else?
Moved the track around and see that all track was connected.
THere where no mis-connections.
No i have no other computers, only a laptop but much to lite for this game so i dont even try it on that one.
Also made a route bigger then 50 sections, the same thing. But not 3/4 of the loop, earlier.
Maybe because there are no other things build on but only track, could this be the error?
I have made a route.
Made 30 sections north, 2 west, 30 south, 2 east lay on the track, nothing else. Put a loc on it and save it. (SD40 UP)
Then drive it 39 mph. after about 3/4 the train derails without no reason. The track is straight, all connected, no defects at all.
Deleted the route.
Made a new route with a diff name. The same layout but other track. 2 tr concrete. Also after a 3/4 round the train derails without no reason at all.
Put other track on it, same thing happend.
I really dont now what is going on here. Is it a bug, or something else?
Moved the track around and see that all track was connected.
THere where no mis-connections.
No i have no other computers, only a laptop but much to lite for this game so i dont even try it on that one.
Also made a route bigger then 50 sections, the same thing. But not 3/4 of the loop, earlier.
Maybe because there are no other things build on but only track, could this be the error?
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What is the length of the track section (between spline circles) where the train derails.
I had a 30 km section were it always derailed too. Split it into smaller 1 to 2 km sections and no more derails.
I can vouch for this one!
I had a bad DIMM that would crash the system after about 30 minutes in driver. I could be in Surveyor all day, but after 30 minutes in Driver, poof to the desktop.
I found this by trial and error, replacing at first a power supply because of the weird voltage drop at that period. I actually borrowed a power monitor from work to do this. Eventually the culprit was found when the system had an error after exiting Word and then Internet Explorer.
Memtst86 found the problem right away.
John
Yes, sometimes the solution really is that simple.
I guess when Trainz was first designed, they envisioned that people would create model railroad type routes, small and compact. Building vast prototypical routes was out of reach, at least from from a hardware point of view.
Now that both Trainz and the hardware can support larger routes, this becomes more of an issue. Since many routes have one curve after another, it would not be obvious but if you many long straight sections, the temptation is to stretch a track section for many kilometers. It all looks normal until you attempt to run n AI train and it suddenly derails. Trouble shooting eventually involves the isolation of track sections and relaying them. Since the new sections are shorter, the problem goes away and is blamed on a bad joint.
I have no bad dimms. Because when i am running Linux the system sees 4Gb mem. So that isnt a problem.
It is that writing attempt to adresses while running ts12. It's only in ts12/ts10. My opinion still is that there is something wrong between tadd and the rest of the processes run by ts12/ts10. There is somewhere a call to write to with a bad adress in a process. But because i have not the tools to open/repair this, and not allowed to do this, it's to Auran/N3V to repair these calls in the program.
I dont now if adresses are been set or reset, maybe timers who must be set, calls to openGL or DirectX. I sayd it before it's a small thing that could happen, but makes major errors.
It is that writing attempt to adresses while running ts12. It's only in ts12/ts10. My opinion still is that there is something wrong between tadd and the rest of the processes run by ts12/ts10. There is somewhere a call to write to with a bad adress in a process. But because i have not the tools to open/repair this, and not allowed to do this, it's to Auran/N3V to repair these calls in the program.
I dont now if adresses are been set or reset, maybe timers who must be set, calls to openGL or DirectX. I sayd it before it's a small thing that could happen, but makes major errors.
No offense, but my system saw all 4Gb of my RAM too, even the BAD stick. Always a good idea to check the RAM first, when you notice oddities appearing. If I had, I could have avoided much pain, and wasted hours.
This is the same with my system as well. Everything worked fine then eventually the problem showed up elsewhere.
If we were running ECC, server quality RAM, then it would be different. The ECC parity bit would correct the error and we would not have seen the problem.
With regular, cheap consumer-quality RAM, this is different. The there is no error checking so the system will continue to run until the problem gets so bad that it causes other faults.
@HJAMM - remember. The simulator is putting a lot more stress on your system than just the operating system or light-load programs. The increase in stress increases the heat-level in your system as it really works the components. You could think that the simulator is somewhat like a burn-in utility, except you get to enjoy your computer while the system is burning in! Taking this into account, I would seriously check your components in your system with other diagnostics, especially after you've been running the program up to the point where it has crashed.
There's a possibility that by this point, something in your system has given up and is now causing the crash. This is coming from a hardware technician. I have worked on system boards, down to the component level, and with computer systems in general for nearly 30 years. This symptom has all the earmarks of a hardware issue somewhere whether it is your RAM, CPU, power supply, or worse your motherboard.
John
To JCitron
Did the memtest lastnight and let it run for the night. Now i just closed it down, there are no errors on both modules. Heat in the computer during the nigth did not reached the alarm setting. 65C (Asus progam), and cooling control on the modules.
Did benchmark test to try to overload with no results.
No defects or errors came forward for my motherboard, videocard, sound, and memory. I have tested my cpu by a program from intel, and even there where no defects or errors.
I agree that if there is a problem in this system that errors came every where, i have seen this before on my earlier systems before.
But why looking at hardware while there is also software.
Software can make even damage to a system, you sayd it before it's burning in. But that is where the specs for the system on the box are for.
If a program is causing that kind off problems then it must be told in the specifications for the system. You cant sell a program that could damage a system.
This system reach the specs and is giving me trouble only with ts10/ts12.
In Linux there are heavy programs as well, and they giving me no problems or errors. (3d games)
Now i can test my system with all kind off programs, but if there are no errors caming out, why not looking to the software?
Did the memtest lastnight and let it run for the night. Now i just closed it down, there are no errors on both modules. Heat in the computer during the nigth did not reached the alarm setting. 65C (Asus progam), and cooling control on the modules.
Did benchmark test to try to overload with no results.
No defects or errors came forward for my motherboard, videocard, sound, and memory. I have tested my cpu by a program from intel, and even there where no defects or errors.
I agree that if there is a problem in this system that errors came every where, i have seen this before on my earlier systems before.
But why looking at hardware while there is also software.
Software can make even damage to a system, you sayd it before it's burning in. But that is where the specs for the system on the box are for.
If a program is causing that kind off problems then it must be told in the specifications for the system. You cant sell a program that could damage a system.
This system reach the specs and is giving me trouble only with ts10/ts12.
In Linux there are heavy programs as well, and they giving me no problems or errors. (3d games)
Now i can test my system with all kind off programs, but if there are no errors caming out, why not looking to the software?