Why run trainz as "Administrator"

[gotink]

I will not allow my children to log on my computer as Administrator.
They have bought this program, but now they cannot use it.
Why must trainz be started as Administrator?

Is there a way to run Trainz 2009 on XP as a User?

 

[cascaderailroad]

Sometimes trainz won't start ... "Run as Administartor" allows Trainz to start.

The Trainz desktop icon/Properties/Adavanced ... tick off the box "Run as Administrator"

Your Antivirus "Allowable Exceptions Rules" should include (depending if it is TRS2006 0r some different version of Trainz):

ProgramFiles/Auran/TRS2006/bin/Launcher.exe
ProgramFiles/Auran/TRS2006/bin/CMP.exe

Edit these above lines to reflect your version of Trainz ... as my version is TRS2006

Safesearch, Parental Controls, and Account Password Protected, should be enough to keep your children "safe search".

 

[mrscsi]

I will not allow my children to log on my computer as Administrator.
They have bought this program, but now they cannot use it.
Why must trainz be started as Administrator?

Is there a way to run Trainz 2009 on XP as a User?

XP is not a problem, at least I don't think so it should run on XP as anything…

For Vista and Windows 7 there were issues when it had to have write access to a folder that was nested within program files, Vista and sometimes Windows 7 would not let you do that…

 

[clam1952]

It's only needed on Windows7 or Vista, XP works as normal.

Just to clarify this Administrator thing for Vista and in particular Win7.

It is not running from an Admin account, it is running just the one program as Administrator, which is a different thing, does not require to log on as an Admin and does not elevate a user to admin status.

Microsoft have basically crippled permissions in Program Files to restrict write access. Programs are now only supposed to write data to the user folders.

If you install to a different location things mostly work as normal.

 

[johnwhelan]

I will not allow my children to log on my computer as Administrator.
They have bought this program, but now they cannot use it.
Why must trainz be started as Administrator?

Is there a way to run Trainz 2009 on XP as a User?

Earlier versions of Trainz needed one file to be given the correct permissions I have a suspicion that TS2009 is the same. N3V have not done a good job with permissions to enable the program to run under a normal user account.

If you dig in the forum you may find the relevant file or you could try helpdesk.

Unfortunately I'm running Win 7 and TS2010 these days.

Cheerio John

 

[Pencil42]

I've run TS2009 under a user account - it worked just fine. When installing or patching, you'll need an admin password/account for the UAC prompt, but not for normal operation. Generally, TC3 and later have worked properly (for me, at least) under a user account; earlier versions required running as admin / manually setting file / folder properties.

Curtis

 

[johnwhelan]

TS2010 runs under a user account with Win7. Patches etc need admin.

I raised the matter a long while ago and I think for TC3 and later versions the intent was user account would be OK.

Cheerio John

 

[tomurban]

I will not allow my children to log on my computer as Administrator.
They have bought this program, but now they cannot use it.
Why must trainz be started as Administrator?

Is there a way to run Trainz 2009 on XP as a User?

Easy. I am running both 06 and 09 on two different computers (XP3) as a user and both versions perform flawlessly. No need to re-install. Using the file manager function in XP just move your Auran or TRAINZ folder from the Program Directory to the root directory of Drive "C". Open the BIN folder, locate the Launcher Icon and create a new shortcut for your desktop. Click on the new shortcut to make sure it works properly and delete the old shortcut. I have done this successfully several times and even copied my 09 folder to a new computer (over a network) in this manner with zero problems. Good Luck. I have not done any patching since doing the move, but I do not anticipate any problems as long as the patch is directed to the correct location.

NOTE: If you have not yet installed the program, just direct the installer to the root "C" directory instead of the default Program Directory.

tomurban

 

[al_sa]

I see no benefit in running Trainz as an Administrator, I have many Trainz versions and Windows 7 x64, so far so good. *knocks on wood*

 

[Retro00064]

On Windows Vista and earlier, it is very important to run Trainz as an administrator if you have it installed in the Program Files folder, as otherwise it will have to write files (custom content, etc.) to the "VirtualStore" folder in the folder for the user's account on the computer, instead of writing directly to the installation folder. Perhaps this is not as necessary with TS2010 and other more recent versions of Trainz that use an asset database with Content Manager, but it can be a source of heartburn for users of earlier Trainz versions, such as TRS2004 and earlier, because TRS2004 and earleir do not really have an "asset database"; you have to interact with the asset files directly, which can be even mor so a pain for content creators. Running the appropriate programs as an administrator (including Trainz) can make life easier. It is also possible to remove the restrictions on the Auran folder in the Program Files folder, making life even easier.

Running a program as an administrator when it is set up to do so means that a dialog will pop up when you attempt to start the program, asking for your confirmation. On Windows Vista, administrator accounts only have to click a "Continue" button to proceed, while "standard" accounts will have to have the password for an administrator account entered before the can proceed.

On Windows XP, there is no such restriction on the Program Files folder nor any such function to run a program as an administrator. On Windows XP, the only really functional user account is the "administrator" account, for the "limited" account is solimited, that you can not even check the date on the taskbar, from what I have read.

Regards.