When the game freezes

[lewisner]

So I've just done about 2 hours work. The game has frozen and just the music is playing. I know that if I use Task Manager to close it , the next time I open it I will have to guess whether to click Use or Revert Changes and hope for the best. But what I would like to know is whether there is any way to "unfreeze" the game without closing it down ? I don't think I have clicked Save in the 2 hours.

 

[PhilChorusch01]

But what I would like to know is whether there is any way to "unfreeze" the game without closing it down ?

Unlikely!

When a game freezes there's just no way to unfreeze it. How much ram and graphics memory you have?
Edit: Just noticed your computer specs

 

[PhilChorusch01]

Open NVIDIA control panel
3d Settings | Program Settings
Add, for TRS19 find trs19.exe or if you are using TRS22 it's trs22.exe
Change the processor to 'NVIDIA High-Performance' then Click Apply.

This will force TRS19 /or TRS22 to use your graphics memory

NOTE: If you update NVIDIA drivers, you will need to setup the same settings again

 

[oldman777]

Maybe I misunderstood, do you all have two graphics cards?

 

[ColPrice2002]

Maybe I misunderstood, do you all have two graphics cards?

Sometimes a PC will have a graphics display included on the motherboard. Many laptops will have this feature (for space reasons). My PC motherboard has no graphics display, so I have a graphics card which fits into a slot on the motherboard.
This gives me the opportunity to upgrade the graphics card if I feel it's too slow, or if it becomes faulty.

If you computer has two graphics systems ("onboard" and "plug-in") it's important to disable one (usually the onboard one) and make sure that the graphics are handled by the more powerful one.

Lewisner has given his PC specifications below the actual post, and his motherboard (like mine) uses a plug-in graphics card, so there's only one.

I have an nVidia graphics card and nVidia provide a control panel where one can select a number of options either for the system, or for a particular program. For my system, my monitor has a 60Hz refresh rate, so I have limited the graphics card to about 75frames/second - there's no point in making the GPU work harder. I can also let Trainz 22 program have "maximum power" so that it can process all the scenery items and consists in Trainz as fast as possible (some routes have lots of scenery and this can slow the output video.).

HTH

Colin

 

[JCitron]

Increasing your computer's virtual memory size, aka the page file, can help with this issue too. For your 32 GB of RAM, make your page file 128 GB. Use a fixed size, by putting in 128000 in both min and max. This will prevent Windows from "managing" the page file.

If you have a second hard disk, not one on a USB port, use that one for a second page file and keep the smaller one on your boot drive. Windows needs a small size one to generate memory dump files. Even if you don't have that option set, it'll get weird, so leave the small one on C: anyway.

 

[oldman777]

Maybe I misunderstood, do you all have two graphics cards?

Sometimes a PC will have a graphics display included on the motherboard. Many laptops will have this feature (for space reasons). My PC motherboard has no graphics display, so I have a graphics card which fits into a slot on the motherboard.
This gives me the opportunity to upgrade the graphics card if I feel it's too slow, or if it becomes faulty.

If you computer has two graphics systems ("onboard" and "plug-in") it's important to disable one (usually the onboard one) and make sure that the graphics are handled by the more powerful one.

Lewisner has given his PC specifications below the actual post, and his motherboard (like mine) uses a plug-in graphics card, so there's only one.

I have an nVidia graphics card and nVidia provide a control panel where one can select a number of options either for the system, or for a particular program. For my system, my monitor has a 60Hz refresh rate, so I have limited the graphics card to about 75frames/second - there's no point in making the GPU work harder. I can also let Trainz 22 program have "maximum power" so that it can process all the scenery items and consists in Trainz as fast as possible (some routes have lots of scenery and this can slow the output video.).

HTH

Colin

I meant a PC and two discrete graphics cards. I didn't mean the CPU built in at all. I have a discrete Nvidia graphics card and an Intel CPU built-in.
I just never install drivers on the built-in and this video card is not in device manager, Nvidia panel or anywhere else.
The Nvidia graphics card always works, and the built-in one does not even consume power.

 

[JCitron]

I meant a PC and two discrete graphics cards. I didn't mean the CPU built in at all. I have a discrete Nvidia graphics card and an Intel CPU built-in.
I just never install drivers on the built-in and this video card is not in device manager, Nvidia panel or anywhere else.
The Nvidia graphics card always works, and the built-in one does not even consume power.

Those video cards are usually found on laptops and rarely on desktop computers if at all these days.

 

[springtransit]

I'm having a similar problem, except I don't have any music on, so don't know about that part, but the game freezes like you said, particularly when working on large routes like Hybrid IOS or Sherman Hill. Even the water stops moving... I was hoping build 125920 would have fixed it, but apparently not...

 

[PhilChorusch01]

I'm having a similar problem, except I don't have any music on, so don't know about that part, but the game freezes like you said, particularly when working on large routes like Hybrid IOS or Sherman Hill. Even the water stops moving... I was hoping build 125920 would have fixed it, but apparently not...

Try updating your drivers, this could help I'm not saying it would! Hopefully, it helps.

If you have NVIDIA, use NVIDIA GeForce Experience. For any Intel drivers you will need Intel Driver & Support Assistant
As for AMD drivers, I'm certain there's a similar program available to NVIDIA GeForce Experience. I just don't know the name of it

Make sure to always perform a clean installation

 

[springtransit]

Try updating your drivers, this could help I'm not saying it would! Hopefully, it helps.

If you have NVIDIA, use NVIDIA GeForce Experience. For any Intel drivers you will need Intel Driver & Support Assistant
As for AMD drivers, I'm certain there's a similar program available to NVIDIA GeForce Experience. I just don't know the name of it

Make sure to always perform a clean installation

I've upgraded them, pretty much been staying on top of the graphics drivers. I even tried a clean install, but I'm still having the game freeze. It seems rather inconsistent, sometimes only a few minutes in and other times after an extended period...

 

[ColPrice2002]

For sound problems it’s worth checking what sound system you have. My motherboard has built in sound blaster hardware, and it needs the correct drivers. Sometimes the WindowsUpdate can upset this…

When Trainz freezes, do you use task manager to see what’s happening.

 

[oldman777]

I'm having a similar problem, except I don't have any music on, so don't know about that part, but the game freezes like you said, particularly when working on large routes like Hybrid IOS or Sherman Hill. Even the water stops moving... I was hoping build 125920 would have fixed it, but apparently not...

Windows Update does not install the entire audio driver package, but only a part.
You need to install the full version of the audio drivers: https://forums.auran.com/threads/tr...ing-to-become-problematic.177019/post-2007857
and in the audio driver panel, make sure that the audio format is set to 24 Bit / 48000 Hz. Higher values can cause problems.

 

[PhilChorusch01]

I've upgraded them, pretty much been staying on top of the graphics drivers. I even tried a clean install, but I'm still having the game freeze. It seems rather inconsistent, sometimes only a few minutes in and other times after an extended period...

Try what I've suggested at #3 https://forums.auran.com/threads/when-the-game-freezes.177888/post-2017930
That's the only way to reduce the freezing, another option is to look at upgrading your ram if you have under 32Gb.

 

[springtransit]

Try what I've suggested at #3 https://forums.auran.com/threads/when-the-game-freezes.177888/post-2017930
That's the only way to reduce the freezing, another option is to look at upgrading your ram if you have under 32Gb.

I have 64GB RAM.

 

[PhilChorusch01]

I have 64GB RAM.

More than I have! I'm got 32GB. Just having a guess, if you've got shadows turned on try changing them to either low or medium. That's pretty much all I can think of

 

[springtransit]

More than I have! I'm got 32GB. Just having a guess, if you've got shadows turned on try changing them to either low or medium. That's pretty much all I can think of

I have them turned off.

 

[PhilChorusch01]

I have them turned off.

I'm running out of options!

Have you tried disabling your antivirus? If not, give that a shot and if successful hooray.. If unsuccessful, go to your local Bunnings warehouse and get yourself a large hammer then threaten your computer to stop acting up or else! It works 15% of the time. I heard swearing at your computer may help too, it's always worked for me LOL

 

[springtransit]

I'm running out of options!

Have you tried disabling your antivirus? If not, give that a shot and if successful hooray.. If unsuccessful, go to your local Bunnings warehouse and get yourself a large hammer then threaten your computer to stop acting up or else! It works 15% of the time. I heard swearing at your computer may help too, it's always worked for me LOL

Hey, I appreciate the help, but I think it's in N3V's hands now... I'm really contemplating pouring Mountain Dew on my computer...

 

[ColPrice2002]

Just a long shot, using nVidia control panel, try reducing the fps setting. I found that setting the fps max to just above the monitor frame rate helped reduce the gpu load. Also, I use a more aggressive cooling fan profile than standard. (Having overdriven one gpu, and fused my cpu with Trainz 2006 I’m a bit paranoid about heat build up!)