UK Content - what do we need?

[Robertd81]

What do we need?

Two words... Art-Deco.
Nothing evokes the 1920's, 30's and 40's like British Art-Deco. From the fantastic tube stations of greater London, to the Burgh Island hotel off the coast of Devon (where Agatha Christie wrote many of her books). It would be lovely to see some of these marvellous buildings come to life again in Trainz... we have dozens of 1930's travel posters to put up on our routes, but not very much by way of a place to display them.
Of course this is only my humble opinion, but the 'age of the train' really was during the age of Art-Deco.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Senate_House,_University_of_London.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:RIBA_London.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bbc_broadcasting_house_front.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BirminghamBarberInstitute.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:StAndrewsHouse-Edinburgh.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:S...and_Hotel_on_Burgh_Island,_Devon,_England.jpg

Peace.
Robertd81

 

[Mick_Berg]

Deleted, inappropriate.
Mick Berg.

 

[angelah]

Stovepipe

Wow, done your homework there stovepipe..!! Well done.

I think Ray Whiley made a small coaling stage for merchants like that one.
I made two, one in brick, one in stone and lower than the brick one.
I suppose I could remake it with those stone-built bays underneath....
My brick version is set to work with multiple industry 2:102376:63032:2. When put into the stage they level at the correct height so track can be attached to this asset. Same with the lower outside track.

Also I have tried to use that coaling tower (the Carnforth copy) but when a loco is set to run to it under AI it cannot find it. I gave up on it in the end. My problem with the would be attachment points because I struggled a lot with the brick coaling stage and even with Bendorsey's help we could not get it past CMP due to errors, which Ben said there wasn't...??? It nearly drove us both batty for quite a long time.
So I could build this tall stage but may not be able to get it to connect up to tracks...

Right now I am working on section three of WCL and am up to Bruton. I have soon discovered there are not many varieties of small industrial units suitable for UK routes so am about to make a few for Bruton yard.
The sewage bins I made for this route as well and the last 2 farm barns.

I don't do rolling stock, just don't know enough about it.

Angela

 

[ex-railwayman]

Good morning Angela,

I noticed that there are quite a lot of Industrial buildings built-in on the TS2010 Trainz version, but, they are nearly all white in colour, however, if they're built-in assets I doubt if anyone can alter the colours/shapes of them for the community. I also have quite a few creations from DomSarto, but, with Dominic being laid up in hospital currently, I don't know what he has on his 'drawing board' for completion for future releases.

I love your pubs anyway, we can never have enough boozing houses......:hehe:

I was going to add, and I apologise to John for hijacking his thread momentarily, but, do you lovely content creators know what each other is building, as there may be some items that are possibly being created as we speak.

Cheerz. ex-railwayman. :wave:

 

[johnwhelan]

Good morning Angela,

I noticed that there are quite a lot of Industrial buildings built-in on the TS2010 Trainz version, but, they are nearly all white in colour, however, if they're built-in assets I doubt if anyone can alter the colours/shapes of them for the community. I also have quite a few creations from DomSarto, but, with Dominic being laid up in hospital currently, I don't know what he has on his 'drawing board' for completion for future releases.

I love your pubs anyway, we can never have enough boozing houses......:hehe:

I was going to add, and I apologise to John for hijacking his thread momentarily, but, do you lovely content creators know what each other is building, as there may be some items that are possibly being created as we speak.

Cheerz. ex-railwayman. :wave:

I've no idea what I'm building never mind anyone else. Scenery objects are usually small projects so get built fairly rapidly. Locos are a bit specialised and there is or used to be a list somewhere or what was planned. Wagons and coaches so few are made its unlikely that two models of the same thing will be produced.

To me the thread is just an area for discussion. I had a vague idea I might be finishing one project shortly so was looking for inspiration but its taking longer than I thought.

Cheerio John

 

[klambert]

Personally I would like to see more 70s and 80s UK cars on the DLS, we have plenty of 50s and 60s cars created by PEV but I would like to see stuff like MK3 Courtinas, Ford Capri's, Austin Princess's, Morris Marena's, Robin Reliants, Ford Zodiac Mk4, the list goes on.

Also we havnt got any typical trainspotter type people on the DLS, you know the ones,middle aged, SLR camera in hand, dodgy cardigan, grey ankle swinger trousers. Face looks like an elephants kneecap.
I need people to fill my platforms on diesel gala days.

How shocking is this? I cant find any proper LT routemaster buses on the DLS, disgraceful.

 

[Saxham_Market]

We need an east lancashire pug 0-4-0ST, And a peckett and son's peckett 0-4-0ST And maybe a freeware class 56, Complete with muck and grime for those merry go round coal routes.

Can you dig out a couple of photos and possibly a plan or two? It might encourage some one to have a look.

A little late in replying I know, but I have found a few:

http://www.flickr.com/groups/1643732@N20/pool/with/5265348633/

(This next one includes a side view from the instruction sheet from the Airfix model)

http://glostransporthistory.visit-gloucestershire.co.uk/ROD_Universal Works_Pug Sextet.htm

 

[robd]

...Also we havnt got any typical trainspotter type people on the DLS, you know the ones,middle aged, SLR camera in hand, dodgy cardigan, grey ankle swinger trousers. Face looks like an elephants kneecap.
I need people to fill my platforms on diesel gala days...

Speaking about yourself?

 

[angelah]

Ex Railwayman

I need these for 2004... Yes, I am a bit of a retard I know, but I like that version so I stick with it.
There are some factories for the UK on the DS but I think there is still a great big hole for a lot more of the more modern light industrial units we see on commercial estates now. The garage that services my car is in one so if it's sunny when I take it in (yet again!) next week I will take my camera.

Ray Whiley and I talk about projects but other than that and unless a creator posts their upcoming intentions in Freeware, then I think we are all in the dark as to what is under construction or even being thought of.

There's an awful lot out there in the real world but I don't think we can make it all, although we have a ruddy good try.... ha ha.

Angela

 

[ray_whiley]

I think Ray Whiley made a small coaling stage for merchants like that one.

I certainly made a small coaling stage, based as far as I can remember (it was in my early GMax creative days) on a drawing in a very old Airfix magazine - but I can't remember whether I uploaded it. I will check.

Ray Whiley and I talk about projects but other than that and unless a creator posts their upcoming intentions in Freeware, then I think we are all in the dark as to what is under construction or even being thought of.

These email discussions are very interesting, and it's helpful to be able to toss ideas around and, from time to time, to check each other's work with a fresh eye - errors can be spotted which the creator did not notice (as has always been the case with any sort of modelling.)

Perhaps a thread on what creators are actually working on might be helpful! At the moment, I'm busy re-doing my 'modern' BR station buildings - those from the BR 1964 modernisation plan, based on modular panels 40 inches wide in various colours (not all at once!) My original models of these were before I learned how to do transarency in GMax - the new ones will be fully glazed (like my car showroom) and the first is ready - a simple platform shelter of which more anon. I'm now working on the second, which is a small platform shelter and attached waiting room. It's almost ready ...

As for future plans, well, whilst on holiday in Llandudno I photographed a lifebuoy on the prom, a litter bin and some other items which probably attracted some puzzled stares. Also plenty of photos of Portmeirion - in case anyone wants to stage 'The Prisoner' in Trainz .....?

Ray

Yes - I did make a small coaling stage for locos but is is marked 'NFD' (not for distribution) and is for my personal use only as I borrowed another creator's coal texture. I will dig it out and use my own coal texture and upload it, if it is of any use to others - and I can find the GMax file (it was on my old computer which died a sudden death last year.)

 

[ex-railwayman]

Also we havnt got any typical trainspotter type people on the DLS, you know the ones,middle aged, SLR camera in hand, dodgy cardigan, grey ankle swinger trousers. Face looks like an elephants kneecap.

I see one every morning when I have a shave......

I need these for 2004... Yes, I am a bit of a retard I know, but I like that version so I stick with it.

I appreciate those who have stuck with TRS2004/6 for their personal reasons, I would NEVER regard anyone as a retard for doing that, Angela.

As for future plans, well, whilst on holiday in Llandudno I photographed a lifebuoy on the prom, a litter bin and some other items which probably attracted some puzzled stares.

Ray

A lifebuoy, I saw one of those on the Trainz Germany website on Friday, but, we can have 2 or 3, of course, variety is the spice of life.....

For another idea to anybody, I noticed we don't seem to have much in the way of modern lifeboat stations, lifeboats, etc, etc, for our game, if anybody may be interested in that seafaring side of things.

Cheerz. ex-railwayman.

 

[ray_whiley]

I did make a small coaling stage for locos but is is marked 'NFD' (not for distribution) and is for my personal use only as I borrowed another creator's coal texture. I will dig it out and use my own coal texture and upload it, if it is of any use to others - and I can find the GMax file (it was on my old computer which died a sudden death last year.)

I've found the original and replaced the borowed texture with one of my own - so hope to upload shortly. However, the model is three years old and made for TRS2004 so I need to write a new config and test it first in 2010.

Ray

 

[angelah]

2004 to 2010

I've found the original and replaced the borowed texture with one of my own - so hope to upload shortly. However, the model is three years old and made for TRS2004 so I need to write a new config and test it first in 2010.

Ray

Hi Ray,
Glad to hear I am not the only one who gets stared at when taking snaps of what other people think of as 'strange' things. It is quite a good way of striking up conversation though...

All the assets I have made with original 2004 configs, that is without a prefix and suffix number, show first time in 2010, so you should not get any problems.
Even with these 'extra' numbers they show in both, I rarely get a problem. If you do send me the config and asset full name seperately and mention the name of the screenshot. I add that last part because the TPR site requests the screenshot be the same name as the assets name.

I look forward to seeing your new stage on the DS in the near future.

Angela

 

[falcon500]

There doesn't seem to be an LMS guards van at least not one that isn't faualty. May be wrong about that though?

 

[angelah]

Make it...!!

Although I hate to use this term, it may just explain my point.
As is mentioned by a few people here, a lot of assets from the old days look like "Cartoon creations" as apposed to the modern realistic photo image assets.
I don't like to sound unappreciative of the free content available, but I hope this helps explain my point. :wave:
It is nice to pull into a station that looks like the real world and not from a Hanna Barbara cartoon. :hehe:

If you wish for ultra realistic content then go ahead and make some. I am sure all Trainzers would be thankful.
But you might suddenly find out how hard it is to get the texturing right and looking as if it is in the real world, not to mention how the file size may start to bump up.

I try to use actual shots of buildings if possible, but it isn't always as easy as one might think, and getting weathering onto home grown (your own) textures to look right is extremely hard because weathering is very subtle.

And it also make me wonder that with a route full of super assets just how much PC power might be needed to run it?

Angela

 

[BLACKWATCH]

There doesn't seem to be an LMS guards van at least not one that isn't faualty. May be wrong about that though?

KUID2:46219:15310:0

kuid:55976:15038

kuid:55976:15036

All run fine for me, have non of them been "updated" yet ?
(or have they been 'fixed' by people who don't know how to do it, like a lot of stuff has)

 

[ex-railwayman]

There doesn't seem to be an LMS guards van at least not one that isn't faualty. May be wrong about that though?

No, all those available were made in the early days, 2003-4, and they all have some sort of error message because of the new stringent CMP.

I obtained some older brakevans recently reskinned by tmz06003 from last year, which don't have any errors, and look quite good, although, they don't have any lettering on the side, so, you can run them on any freight trains. Kuid:283805:15154 through to 15157, if you're interested.

Cheerz. ex-railwayman.

 

[jayholland]

How shocking is this? I cant find any proper LT routemaster buses on the DLS, disgraceful.

Oh, dear. Before I settled on making 1930s vehicles, I made this basic mesh. I have just fished it out again and stuck some wheels on it. I suppose you would like me to finish it...?

More toil...

 

[mezzoprezzo]

@ jayholland

J.

That could end up as a London Transport Diesel Engined Ninety-seven Horsepower Omnibus.

Above the motor sound, I can already almost hear cry, "Any more fares please"!

Thanks for your continued and valued contributions.

Cheers
Casper

 

[captainkman]

Personally, I'd LOVE to have Big Bertha, the banker on the Lickey, in Trainz. It would be perfect for the Lickey Incline route on the DLS. (Sorry, route is TC3 only)

We could have several versions. Number 2290 for MR, 22290 for LMS and 58100 for British Rail. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MR_0-10-0_Lickey_Banker

I'd buy payware if there was one on Paul's Trainz or similar payware site, I'd pay $5 AUS or more for it!

Also, what about some more Caledonian and Midland Railway locos, like the Johnson Midland Single 4-2-2. One like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midland_Railway_115_Class