Two REALLY Dumb Things I Noticed with 2009

[johnwhelan]

If TRS2009 is a work in progress what was the point of releasing it, to raise money? The same could probably be said for the 1st version of TRS2006, that could also be called a work in progress. That must have left a bad taste in lots of mouths! I've bought all editions of Trainz except 2009. Recently I bought a copy Trainz Collection as a more convenient way of installing 2004 and 2006. The version of 2004 Build 2370 has no Content Foundry, contacted Helpdesk about this still no reply. The point that anyone new to TRS wouldn't know about these kinds of problems or how to fix them is good one, how many actually register their game and register for the forum? I notice that content sent to DLS can be used by Auran and that royalties may be paid, I wonder if anyone has actually got any? Whenever there is any hard questions about Auran's software staff seem to be conveniently absent.

Trainz has always been a mixture of game engine and content made by content creators. TRS2009 WBE is a necessary step to get the TRS2009 game engine into the content creators hands. It also brings in a bit of useful cash considering how close Auran were to bankruptcy.

I think its around 10% of Trainz copies get registered so say 2% of users use the forums from time to time.

Auran have been very good about answering content creators questions recently.

Cheerio John

 

[Euphod]

You know, there's always been other things Auran could have done to raise quick cash. They could have sold content packs, routes, locomotives and rolling stock. Instead, they leave the creation to the community and now we have a big mess on our hands. The tasks the community volunteers for, they won't let us help (like cleaning up the DLS)! Bass-ackwards, I say!

 

[deeelare]

You know, there's always been other things Auran could have done to raise quick cash. They could have sold content packs, routes, locomotives and rolling stock. Instead, they leave the creation to the community and now we have a big mess on our hands. The tasks the community volunteers for, they won't let us help (like cleaning up the DLS)! Bass-ackwards, I say!

And would it not be an ideal situation if Auran refrained from working on their next release , and simply put all their efforts into finishing WBE TS2009 .
Fixing the problems , re-establishing their fading reputation , rebuilding a Sim that can easily be downloaded by a newbie , having a Download station that actually worked ? And then , continue to the next level .
It is most likely an income game to them , but unless their plans change , they will definately end up on a very short siding !
We have listened to the hype since TRS2004 , we have downloaded patch after patch up to , and including TS2009 , and I fear nothing will be totally as it should have been / could have been , and they will ultimately prerelease the next version hoping to create more revenue ,with a multitude of new errors . At some point I feel Auran's followers will simply say " enough is enough " .
Auran , bite the bullet , make a sim that works ( your monies will come back to you ) , or try to revive ' Fury ' , and leave the trains sims to some other company that understands the simple reasons you have failed !

My thoughts --- ,DLR

 

[illinoiscentral]

Well deeelare,
I never thought I'd be saying this but, I agree with you. BTW your post was very well written, just about thought I was reading a game review or something. Anyway I totally agree.
Cheers.

 

[marvschwenke]

You know, there's always been other things Auran could have done to raise quick cash. They could have sold content packs, routes, locomotives and rolling stock. Instead, they leave the creation to the community and now we have a big mess on our hands. The tasks the community volunteers for, they won't let us help (like cleaning up the DLS)! Bass-ackwards, I say!

I agree completely. It's high time that Auran stop pretending that content is someone else's problem. After all in the hobby of model railroading, it's all about the models. I have been waiting patiently since UTC for the game code to become stable enough so that content doesn't get broken by new releases and that Auran would start releasing content packs, which is where I think their real revenue stream should come from instead of breaking everyones routes (and hard work), every 2 years.

 

[deeelare]

Well deeelare,
I never thought I'd be saying this but, I agree with you. BTW your post was very well written, just about thought I was reading a game review or something. Anyway I totally agree.
Cheers.

IC,
See , we all ' CAN get along ' , thank-you --- ,DLR

 

[illinoiscentral]

Yes deeelare, we can. Here is to a "fresh start".

 

[illinoiscentral]

Here is how I view it, for Auran's next Trainz game example, "Trainz 11" they need to wipe out Maries Pass and all the other content, I mean wipe it clean.
Then they need to make completely new default stuff and make it bug free, if they have to work for a few years, fine. I was practically bowing down to Jointed Rail with their F7, Auran should have made theirs like that years ago. Auran can not compete with the other simulations unless they provide something worth choosing. Marketing is also in poor condition, when I got mmy TRS06, it never mentioned on the box that there was all these third party websites. It actually never mentioned the DLS! I was excited and then disappointed with Trainz2009, I saw the hype, but after what I've read and seen, it is not worth the money spent. I would encourage Auran to read the posts and the cries...maybe it would turn things around.
Cheers.

 

[Napalm]

Marketing is also in poor condition, when I got mmy TRS06, it never mentioned on the box that there was all these third party websites. It actually never mentioned the DLS!

Hmm, I've just pulled my box of the shelf and looked, it has a nice section that says 'Thousands of items are available online for free at the Download Station......'

I was excited and then disappointed with Trainz2009, I saw the hype, but after what I've read and seen, it is not worth the money spent. I would encourage Auran to read the posts and the cries...maybe it would turn things around.
Cheers.

Although you are not seeing Auran say anything on this forum or answering the 'cries' work IS being done to TS2009 hence the latest 'hotfix' patch and the upcoming SP2 patch.

Nathan

 

[illinoiscentral]

My point is, why do we need patches? Why can't they just amke a trouble free game...you don't see EA Sports patching Nascar 09. Can anyone see my point here?

 

[Napalm]

Well not on TRS06.

Yes, it's on the TRS2006 case.

Nathan

 

[illinoiscentral]

Not on mine.

 

[johnwhelan]

My point is, why do we need patches? Why can't they just amke a trouble free game...you don't see EA Sports patching Nascar 09. Can anyone see my point here?

Different market, but even EA has patches. Trainz is open ended and put together by a small team. The EA games by contrast don't have to concern themselves with steam engine specs and end user created content pushing the envelope, passengers getting on a stations, carrying bulk loads or visible products NASCAR is a much simpler thing altogether.

By the way there is no such thing as trouble free software, undocumented system features are just part of life.

Cheerio John

 

[illinoiscentral]

True, and you are right John. However I notice that there is an exceeding amount of trouble with TRS09...or maybe it is just a hell of a lot of people whinning...
Cheers.

 

[American_Connections]

Is there a positive anymore?

Seems all these forums are anymore are complaints about trainz not working! This used to be fun, but is quickly becoming not so!

 

[Napalm]

Seems all these forums are anymore are complaints about trainz not working! This used to be fun, but is quickly becoming not so!

I agree completely with you, it's getting very negative these days and if anyone makes a valid suggestion they get shot down in flames!!

Nathan

 

[illinoiscentral]

I agree too. I was trying to make a point of maybe... ah forget it I was probably wrong. But yes anymore it does seem to be alot of "Nagnagnag"

 

[deeelare]

Seems all these forums are anymore are complaints about trainz not working! This used to be fun, but is quickly becoming not so!

The latest Trainz release is NOT working , the fun is quickly becoming not so !
The complaints in my opinion , are that Auran will spend their time on a new release and will not completely fix/repair the latest release they have on the market today , and therfore these complaints are rightly so !
They must put all their effort into TS2009 WBE , impress the new purchaser , and then move forward .
One example is the 06 manual in 09 , they could have at least changed the 6 to a 9 !

Sorry but I am not as impressed as when I switched from MSTS to UTC some 8 years ago , back then they were the best , surveyor was a masterpiece !

Simply my thoughts --- ,DLR

 

[illinoiscentral]

Agreed

I agree deeelare, that is silly to have the 06 manual in 09, hello people the manual is the guide for the Trainz2009 game...so how does it fit into it if it is for 06?! I'm beginning to think that Auran is slacking off. TRS06 is great...I don't think I would say that if I previously had 04 though...

 

[martinvk]

The latest Trainz release is NOT working , the fun is quickly becoming not so ! ...
Simply my thoughts --- ,DLR

Your thoughts, yes, but still a pretty strong generalization Let's not be too plural. For others including me, it does work. It mostly does what I want it to do. There are a few things I would like fixed or changed but they don't stop me from having fun. This might be pedantic but for those new to the game reading these sweeping statements could be forgiven if they thought the sky was falling when all we have is some rain, even it it is in the tunnels. :hehe:

Not questioning your right to your thoughts, just asking you not to be so inclusive.