TUME’s Simulation of “The Milwaukee Road”

New Banner at TS2010 page

Hallo,

just viewing the TS2010 promotion page, I recognized a screen of my Avery – Drexel route made it up to the main banner. It’s the small part at the left hand side. The screen views a non Milwaukee Road train running at the tracks and have been captured just a little north of Avery, Id

All the other screens and locomotive presentations provide a nice preview to TS2010 also.

I am just looking forward to have a look at it by myself.


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See the page:
http://www.n3vgames.com/productpage.php?id=82

:)

Your’s TUME
 
Tume, your route and content is excellent. I agree with many that I may have to buy TRS2010 to get it. Also, didn't you post something several pages back about a double level auto carrier? If so, how far along is this and would you consider releasing it?
 
Auto Carriers

Tume, your route and content is excellent. I agree with many that I may have to buy TRS2010 to get it. Also, didn't you post something several pages back about a double level auto carrier? If so, how far along is this and would you consider releasing it?

Hallo,

thank you all for your compliments.

I have already sent the open double level and the three level auto carriers to Auran also. If they did not change anything, both cars including its required car loads will be released as “Built-In” content at TS2010.

The auto carriers are 30 Metres long.

See some screens below been captured at a pre TS2009 release – not TS2010!!


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:)

Your’s TUME
 
Awsome work! Your work is one the main reasons i am getting TS2010.
We have the MTH Hiawatha Set on our o scale layout...
 
Tume's work is certainly impressive, but it will wait quietly upon the shelves like the rest of the content until the price of the package is sufficiently low to transform the purchase into something less ... embarrassing.

Until then I am certain I can survive without it!
 
Too bad the MILW 261 is going to be stuffed and mounted and no longer pulling excursions, much like NS's steam locos. Large mainline steam is rare today in the US, except for UP's 844, NKP 765 and PM 1225 in Michigan, and the ATSF one in Calif. BNSF is really the only class 1 that will let steam on their lines, and UP will only allow their own steam. NS allows limited steam movements, like when NKP 765 was moved to Indiana for special excursions and they had to use NS to move it there. NS put a diesel in front of the 765 during the move. In a video of an excursion with 765, 1225 in Michigan I thought I saw a Milw super observation on the train like this http://www.trainfestival2009.com/images/4449-obs.jpg http://www.trainorderpix.com/images/Owosso/OW-DD-Hiawatha-072909.jpg And there's a full dome car, too. I like the dome car in Trainz with it's upper interior view. I made reskins of the car for Reading, Blue Mountain and Northern and Norfolk Southern railroads, they both have one car. Here's an example of the dome car in Norfolk Southern http://valleypass.com/Sales/Screen26/NS_16.jpg this is an MSTS model but it shows you what the dome car looks like in Norfolk Southern. I would like to make NS's business car fleet like this http://valleypass.com/Sales/NS.htm but in Trainz 2004. There already is an NS observation car and F7 diesel (I modified mine to have the correct NS font and K5LA horn) on the DLS but nothing else. I am using Paintshed to do some of the NS coaches, but I would like to use a few of your coaches, dome car for the NS train, and also a second copy of the dome car for Reading, Blue Mountain and Northern Railroad (a 300-mile regional railroad based in Port Clinton, PA which also operates steam and diesel excursions for the public). I am doing a super route combining Reading and Northern and NS Reading Line layouts with my own DEM to form a super route. The NS part I might extend to Manville, NJ to the east, and Shippensburg, PA to the southwest. I extended the Reading and Northern layout up to Sayre, PA (former Lehigh Valley RR) which Reading and Northern operates up to the P&G plant at Mehoopany, PA and the Steamtown lines to Delaware Water Gap, Carbondale, and the CP line across the Nicholson Viaduct. The reskins of the dome car and coaches are only for my personal use at this time unless tume allows me to release them sometime in the future.
 
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Too bad the MILW 261 is going to be stuffed and mounted and no longer pulling excursions, much like NS's steam locos. Large mainline steam is rare today in the US, except for UP's 844, NKP 765 and PM 1225 in Michigan, and the ATSF one in Calif. BNSF is really the only class 1 that will let steam on their lines, and UP will only allow their own steam. NS allows limited steam movements, like when NKP 765 was moved to Indiana for special excursions and they had to use NS to move it there. NS put a diesel in front of the 765 during the move. In a video of an excursion with 765, 1225 in Michigan I thought I saw a Milw super observation on the train like this http://www.trainfestival2009.com/images/4449-obs.jpg http://www.trainorderpix.com/images/Owosso/OW-DD-Hiawatha-072909.jpg And there's a full dome car, too. I like the dome car in Trainz with it's upper interior view. I made reskins of the car for Reading, Blue Mountain and Northern and Norfolk Southern railroads, they both have one car. Here's an example of the dome car in Norfolk Southern http://valleypass.com/Sales/Screen26/NS_16.jpg this is an MSTS model but it shows you what the dome car looks like in Norfolk Southern. I would like to make NS's business car fleet like this http://valleypass.com/Sales/NS.htm but in Trainz 2004. There already is an NS observation car and F7 diesel (I modified mine to have the correct NS font and K5LA horn) on the DLS but nothing else. I am using Paintshed to do some of the NS coaches, but I would like to use a few of your coaches, dome car for the NS train, and also a second copy of the dome car for Reading, Blue Mountain and Northern Railroad (a 300-mile regional railroad based in Port Clinton, PA which also operates steam and diesel excursions for the public). I am doing a super route combining Reading and Northern and NS Reading Line layouts with my own DEM to form a super route. The NS part I might extend to Manville, NJ to the east, and Shippensburg, PA to the southwest. I extended the Reading and Northern layout up to Sayre, PA (former Lehigh Valley RR) which Reading and Northern operates up to the P&G plant at Mehoopany, PA and the Steamtown lines to Delaware Water Gap, Carbondale, and the CP line across the Nicholson Viaduct. The reskins of the dome car and coaches are only for my personal use at this time unless tume allows me to release them sometime in the future.

:( What they are actually going to do that to the 261 like 611 and 1218,4501?
this is ridiculous,I'm sure alot of angry railfans will protest about this but anyway, the representing the Milwaukee road in trainz,Nice work!:cool:
 
:( What they are actually going to do that to the 261 like 611 and 1218,4501?
this is ridiculous,I'm sure alot of angry railfans will protest about this but anyway, the representing the Milwaukee road in trainz,Nice work!:cool:

This are really bad news!!! So it was a good thing that Scott Monsma (MILW at Planet Auran) used to be on a 261 excursion during Sumer 2006. I marked special detail areas at a photo of the 261 and Scott made detail photos from it, so I was able to get original texture onto my Trainz 261.

I know a lot of people are waiting for its release. At the moment, I am about to learn a lot more, how to create nice detailed night mode onto rolling stock and locomotives. I use my PCC Street Car project doing this (see this thread at replay no. 312). You may ask – night mode at a stem loco? But if you watch some night photos of the 261, you will see this would be great to have it at the virtual model too. Also the 261 still needs the whole driver cab interior including all the levers and valves. As I spent all my time to finalise my Milwaukee Road Avery-Drexel Route I could not put forward to complete any of my other locos, including the 261 and the Bi-Polar electrics.

I hope I will be able to release the whole set of locos during the first quarter of the next year.

By the way, my Milwaukee Road Avery-Drexel Route has yesterday been released as Built-In at Auran’s TS2010. This route includes Milwaukee Road’s St. Paul Pass section between Avery, Id and Drexel, Mt as well as the Northern pacific Lookout Pass Line between Haugan, Mt and Mullan, Id. Also there are two sessions, one for the MR and one for the NP. Besides a lot of freight cars, my GP9’s from the DLS and a Speeder, the Built-In also contains the EF4 Little Joe number E75 and a SD40-2 changeable within ten different running numbers.


http://www.auran.com/auran/store/index.php?p=3&PID=198

:)


Your’s TUME
 
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This are really bad news!!! So it was a good thing that Scott Monsma (MILW at Planet Auran) used to be on a 261 excursion during Sumer 2006. I marked special detail areas at a photo of the 261 and Scott made detail photos from it, so I was able to get original texture onto my Trainz 261.

I know a lot of people are waiting for its release. At the moment, I am about to learn a lot more, how to create nice detailed night mode onto rolling stock and locomotives. I use my PCC Street Car project doing this. You may ask – night mode at a stem loco? But if you watch some night photos of the 261, you will see this would be great to have it at the virtual model too. Also the 261 still needs the whole driver cab interior including all the levers and valves. As I spent all my time to finalise my Milwaukee Road Avery-Drexel Route (released yesterday as Built-In at Auran’s TS2010) I could not put forward to complete any of my other locos, including the 261 and the Bi-Polar electrics.

I hope I will be able to release the whole set of locos during the first quarter of the next year.

Your’s TUME


Yeah its sad to see the 261 go...But the good thing is...Its coming to the city where I live :hehe:


News Release
Contact: Steve Sandberg
Friends of the 261 to return Milwaukee Road 261 to National Railroad Museum

MINNEAPOLIS, Minnesota, Nov. 20, 2009:

The “Friends of the 261” was unable to accept the final offer for an extension of its lease agreement for Milwaukee Road 261 from the National Railroad Museum of Green Bay, Wis. As a result, the famous steam locomotive, which was built in 1944 and used by the “Friends” in excursion service from 1993 to 2008, will eventually return to the Museum as a display.

The National Railroad Museum, which owns the 261, and the “Friends” have been attempting to negotiate a new lease for the past several years. The Friends asked for at least a 15-year lease agreement while the NRM’s final offer was for a ten-year term. Friends of the 261 and North Star Rail Chief Operating Officer Steve Sandberg said the decision to return 261 was based on simple economics. “The Museum’s latest offer would only extend us a ten-year lease, but under current Federal regulations boiler overhauls have a 15-year term. The cost for the 10-year lease was $20,000 per year with a four percent increase annually compounding. After incurring the cost of rebuilding the locomotive, the Friends would be paying in addition an average of $25,000 per year for the 10-year period. After ten years we would have to give the locomotive back with 33 percent of its service life still left. It’s hard to amortize the cost of a 15-year boiler overhaul in a ten-year time frame. We just could not economically justify spending $400,000 to $600,000 on an overhaul, plus paying a substantially increased lease payment, for only a ten-year lease term.”

For several years the “Friends” has been cross subsidizing the cost of 261 operations by leasing or chartering passenger cars from a fleet of cars it has built up over the years. This has enabled the not for profit Friends of 261 to keep the 261 in operation – the only privately sponsored mainline steam organization to do so, year after year.

Sandberg said it has been a privilege to restore and operate 261 over the past 15 years. “It has been one of the joys of my life to operate Milwaukee Road 261, especially since my grandfather used to run the locomotive on the Milwaukee Road when it was in regular service. I want to thank the National Railroad Museum for entrusting our organization with this historic engine for the last decade and a half.”

Even with the conclusion of 261 operations, the Friends of the 261 will remain active. The group will continue to charter and lease its extensive fleet of passenger cars for Amtrak and excursion trips. In 2010, the group is working to bring another main line steam locomotive to Minneapolis for several excursions, and, in the long run, may acquire another steam locomotive to restore to operation.
 
Yeah its sad to see the 261 go...But the good thing is...Its coming to the city where I live :hehe:


News Release
Contact: Steve Sandberg
Friends of the 261 to return Milwaukee Road 261 to National Railroad Museum

MINNEAPOLIS, Minnesota, Nov. 20, 2009:

The “Friends of the 261” was unable to accept the final offer for an extension of its lease agreement for Milwaukee Road 261 from the National Railroad Museum of Green Bay, Wis. As a result, the famous steam locomotive, which was built in 1944 and used by the “Friends” in excursion service from 1993 to 2008, will eventually return to the Museum as a display.

The National Railroad Museum, which owns the 261, and the “Friends” have been attempting to negotiate a new lease for the past several years. The Friends asked for at least a 15-year lease agreement while the NRM’s final offer was for a ten-year term. Friends of the 261 and North Star Rail Chief Operating Officer Steve Sandberg said the decision to return 261 was based on simple economics. “The Museum’s latest offer would only extend us a ten-year lease, but under current Federal regulations boiler overhauls have a 15-year term. The cost for the 10-year lease was $20,000 per year with a four percent increase annually compounding. After incurring the cost of rebuilding the locomotive, the Friends would be paying in addition an average of $25,000 per year for the 10-year period. After ten years we would have to give the locomotive back with 33 percent of its service life still left. It’s hard to amortize the cost of a 15-year boiler overhaul in a ten-year time frame. We just could not economically justify spending $400,000 to $600,000 on an overhaul, plus paying a substantially increased lease payment, for only a ten-year lease term.”

For several years the “Friends” has been cross subsidizing the cost of 261 operations by leasing or chartering passenger cars from a fleet of cars it has built up over the years. This has enabled the not for profit Friends of 261 to keep the 261 in operation – the only privately sponsored mainline steam organization to do so, year after year.

Sandberg said it has been a privilege to restore and operate 261 over the past 15 years. “It has been one of the joys of my life to operate Milwaukee Road 261, especially since my grandfather used to run the locomotive on the Milwaukee Road when it was in regular service. I want to thank the National Railroad Museum for entrusting our organization with this historic engine for the last decade and a half.”

Even with the conclusion of 261 operations, the Friends of the 261 will remain active. The group will continue to charter and lease its extensive fleet of passenger cars for Amtrak and excursion trips. In 2010, the group is working to bring another main line steam locomotive to Minneapolis for several excursions, and, in the long run, may acquire another steam locomotive to restore to operation.


Hallo WCL,

you may should show this video to Steve Sandberg, may he will like it.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=60627614


The video starts at one of my fictional country routes showing the 261 at an excursion in our days. Than it goes back in time and jumps to Othello, Wa. The 4-8-4 267 pulles a Olympian Hiawatha eastbound out of Othello. I captured the scenes at my Milwaukee Road route Othello – Kittitas, which is still under creation – since 2004! The video ends at Avery, Id.

Regards, TUME
 
I should bring this topic up to some of the people at the RR museum and at a RR club I belong to and show them some of the work you have done and yet show them the 261 still running again.......

Keep up the good work :Y:
 
261

I would like the 261 as freeware :D:D:udrool::udrool::udrool::mop: and I grown up in Minnesota never heard or saw the loco but a few times I could but other duties got in to my way so I miss the train.:'(:'(:mop:
 
TS2010 Screens

Hallo at all,

now the first screens coming up from the new TS2010, including the Milwaukee Road Avery-Drexel route – over St. Paul Pass. Whitepass kindly provided a screen of it at his new thread "TS2010 screenshots".


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May you have a look to Whitepass’s new thread, as there are some other information about TS2010 and its Built-In routes available.

http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=48806

Have fun playing with all the nice routes and the content of TS2010.

:)

Your’s TUME
 
Tume, this is what my reskins of the dome car look like
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These shots were taken on the new section of my layout from Reading to Harrisburg, PA on Norfolk Southern (ex-Reading, Conrail) tracks. I am currently laying track toward Harrisburg and I only got a mile laid so far. I will also be extending the layout from Phillipsburg to Manville, NJ and possibly from Reading to Philly. The same layout also includes the Reading and Northern Railroad and Steamtown lines out of Scranton but nothing is done on the Steamtown part yet except part of the CP line north of Scranton. When I get more done on the layout I might start a thread in the screenshots section.
 
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Reskins of the Super Dome Cars.

Tume, this is what my reskins of the dome car look like
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These shots were taken on the new section of my layout from Reading to Harrisburg, PA on Norfolk Southern (ex-Reading, Conrail) tracks. I am currently laying track toward Harrisburg and I only got a mile laid so far. I will also be extending the layout from Phillipsburg to Manville, NJ and possibly from Reading to Philly. The same layout also includes the Reading and Northern Railroad and Steamtown lines out of Scranton but nothing is done on the Steamtown part yet except part of the CP line north of Scranton. When I get more done on the layout I might start a thread in the screenshots section.


Hallo rwk,

now I want to take time to respond about your reskin intensions.
It’s a nice compliment, that you consider my cars as dignified to create reskins from it.

As far as I can see the quality of your texture work from your screen shots, I think the cars would provide a good performance in the “After Milwaukee Road livery”. And I hope people will like it too. So yes, you have the permission to reskin this Super Dome Cars :-)

Just, I would ask you to mention me as the original creator of the cars in the description and in the car’s user name.

By myself, I am thinking about redesigning the whole car set. I would like to add animated doors and night mode for even a better performance. But this will take a while ;-)

I am looking forward to see your reskins at DLS. It would be nice, if you could send me a note, after releasing.

:)

Your’s TUME
 
Tume,

Greatly enjoying your route in 2010 - many thanks for the efforts you have made to produce something so good.:)

Bob
 
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