TS2012 SP1 Boycott
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shaneturner12
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I'd like to know that as well, as some of it is false information to what I can see.
Shane
Shane
Sadly there's lots of false information in these threads as usual. This usually comes from people who have had bad experiences with the initial service pack install, mostly due to their own self-inflicted mess and not planning for an upgrade. As we know with any service pack or upgrade, having a backup first is the smartest thing we can do. Anyway, the ones bitten by the bug then spread their not-so-correct information which of course is the stuff that gets eaten up by those who don't know the truth. In some ways I blame N3V for not being forthcoming about the changes brought to us with SP1, but then again they're developers not document writers. This alone could be another forum post and major discussion.
Error checking is another example which I responded to earlier in this thread, and very well mind you! I distinctly remember Chris Bergmann saying that there were going to be changes to Trainz error checking with the release of TRS2006 onward. He even said in that thread that the rules would be tighter and the checking stricter. I might be a brain farted fogey now, but I remember certain things quite well, particularly when they interest me. It seems that people ignored this and complained anyway!
DRM is not nice and I don't condone it unless it's absolutely necessary. Again, N3V stated their opinion on this in a recently locked thread, created by Chris B, however, this went on ignored as people kept jabbering and spreading the false information. I suppose it's more fun and exciting to talk about the trash than it is to discuss real info.
John
Error checking is another example which I responded to earlier in this thread, and very well mind you! I distinctly remember Chris Bergmann saying that there were going to be changes to Trainz error checking with the release of TRS2006 onward. He even said in that thread that the rules would be tighter and the checking stricter. I might be a brain farted fogey now, but I remember certain things quite well, particularly when they interest me. It seems that people ignored this and complained anyway!
DRM is not nice and I don't condone it unless it's absolutely necessary. Again, N3V stated their opinion on this in a recently locked thread, created by Chris B, however, this went on ignored as people kept jabbering and spreading the false information. I suppose it's more fun and exciting to talk about the trash than it is to discuss real info.
John
Actually, N3V is a company that hires developers and, regretfully, doesn't hire document writers. They could and, I believe, they should.
One of the great factors leading to the success and popularity of the classic Microsoft Train Simulator were the guides for route building, activity creation, and even the old Microsoft-licensed Sibex guide was helpful. Would that N3V would follow that example. As is, fragments of information are scattered here and there, are often not reliable or up-to-date and, of course, there are always the curmudgeons who have to post the unhelpful "figure it out yourself" responses towards those who are seeking information.
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Indeed. This has been an issue for some time. In the past they had the old CCGs but I think with TRS2009 they went with the wiki approach which has some great information, but it's still a WIP just like any Wiki. A handful of Trainz users have been updating the Trainz Wiki but this process has taken time.
One of the future stretch goals is to produce some real documentation. Let's hope we can get there some day, if not sooner.
Regards,
John