TS12 Crashes Every Time I try starting it

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21panthers

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This is already my third time installing the digital download, and I've done just about as much research as possible. But still whenever I try launching TS12, the main menu screen pops up fine, but after i click "Start", a screen comes up saying to send an error report to Trainz.

If I switch my setting to OpenGL, an error screen comes up saying my computer hardware is unable to communicate with Trainz.


I did the diagnosis test thing and these were my results:


System Information
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Time of this report : 15/11/2012, 21:47:17
Operating System : Home Edition Service Pack 2 (Build 6002)
Screen Size : 1152 x 864
Ram Found : 1525 MB
Ram Free : 586 MB
Virtual Ram Free : 1924 MB
Raw Cpu Clock Speed : ~3.01 GHZ
OEM ID : 0
Number of processors : 2
Page size : 4096
Processor type : 586
Processor Architecture : 0
Processor Level : 15
Processor Revision : 1541
Allocation Granularity : 65536
3D-Now : Unavailable
FP operations : Not Emulated
FP precision error : Does not occur
MMX : Available
Physical Address Extension : Available
RDTSC instruction : Available
SSE instruction : Available
SSE2 instruction : Available


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Test Results
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CPU Speed : ~3.00 GHZ : Passed
CPU supports SSE instructions : Passed
System Memory : 1525 MB : Passed
Hard Drive Space: 177.79 GB Free : Passed
OpenGL : Version 1.4 : Passed
DirectX : Version 10.0 or later : Passed
Desktop Mode : 32 bit colors : Passed
Card Type : Intel 945G : Passed
Video Driver's Age : 53 months old -Update : Warning
AGP Memory : 192MB Free : Passed
Total Video Mem : 256MB : Passed
Stencil Buffer : 8 Bits : Passed
Multi-Texturing : 8 Textures : Passed
Texture Compression DXT : Passed
Texture Combiners : Passed
Vertex Shaders : Version 1.1 (DirectX failure) : Warning
Pixel Shaders : Version 2.0 : Passed
Bump Mapping : Passed
Spherical Environment Mapping (DirectX failure) : Warning
Cubic Environment Mapping : Passed
Vertex Buffers (DirectX failure) : Warning
NVIDIA driver compatibility : Passed
Monitor: No compatability problems detected : Passed



If anybody has any tips on what I should do, I would greatly appreciate it!
Thanks!
 
Looks like you have video failures - looks like it's on board graphics, which is generally inadequate for trainz.
 
I'm also concerned that the amount of physical memory that TrainzDiag has reported is only 1.5GB, which is not sufficient for Trainz to run properly (especially as at the time of the report only around 0.5GB was free)

Shane
 
Alright I'll have to wait until I get home from school tonight and ask my brother what to do because I have no idea on anything with computers...
 
Get a real computer. :hehe: You didn't mention what kind of computer you're trying to play this on, but all the specs scream "LAPTOP!" If you have a laptop rather than a desktop, for any 3D video game you need to ignore what it says for minimum required specs, look at the recommended specs and double that, consider that the bare minimum required. If you have a laptop with double the recommended specs don't try to play on battery power, plug it in before trying to play Trainz.

And by the way, the test results from trainzdiag.exe are meaningless, they haven't been updated in over 5 years so they're still checking for the minimum specs to run TRS2006.
 
An Intel 945G chipset will not run TRS 12. I speak from experience on that point. Also, it is a very old on-board graphics chip and the drivers are not up-dateable. As sniper noted, you need a new computer, preferably not a laptop.
 
I talked to my school technological person guy and showed him the results etc. and he told me that I will just have to update my driver from the HP website and download directx9. I don't have a laptop...
 
21panthers said:
I talked to my school technological person guy and showed him the results etc. and he told me that I will just have to update my driver from the HP website and download directx9. I don't have a laptop...
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I would think you would at least need more Ram and a good Graphics Card.
 
Yeah, if it's a desktop then upgrading may be possible, disable the onboard graphics in the BIOS and install an actual video card. Question is does it have a PCIE slot, and what exactly is the operating system and CPU?

Operating System : Home Edition Service Pack 2 (Build 6002)

"Home Edition" of XP, Vista, Windows 7, or Windows 95?

Processor type : 586

Everything after the 486 is technically a 586, but Pentium 1, 2, 3, 4, D, core2 duo, i3, what kind of CPU is it?
 
All I know is it is windows vista. Does that help at all? I'll be heading homeIn a bit so I'll be able to find out more then.
 
Make and model of the computer might help, give us a better idea of what it might have. Main thing is if you take off the side cover;

d50b9d8b_800px-pci_und_pcie_slots.jpeg


If one of the expansion slots is longer than the others like that, it should be a PCIE x16 slot you can put a decent graphics card into. Main trouble with integrated graphics is it doesn't have dedicated video RAM so it shares a portion of the system RAM, so when a program tries to write something to the preferred system RAM address it finds it already occupied by the shared video and gets virtual hiccups. Most 3D video game programmers assume the end user will have an actual video card with a certain amount of VRAM so there are never any guarantees with integrated graphics.
 
21panthers said:
My computer is a HP Compaq Pavilion a6013w Desktop
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Hello I checked your motherboard have on pci-e 16x slot, You buy very good video card best on Nvidia, I see that 1.5gb You can upgrade up to 4 gb max with four slot with 1 GB each ddr2 if 1 GB on ram stay need buy three 1 GB ram but PSU "power supply unit" need min 450 or 500 watts or more because video card hook up with PSU, Use lot of power eat on it !!!:hehe:

check on Your HP PC
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...1&cc=us&dlc=&lang=&lc=en&product=3377271#N144

John
 
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What I'm looking at it comes stock with a 300 watt power supply (too low) and a Pentium D 3.0ghz CPU (does not meet minimum specs). But if you can get an actual video card that doesn't require a bigger power supply, it should at least run. My advice would be to replace rather than trying to upgrade, since it needs practically everything.
 
Hello again I know what happened psu fail during bad or dry up capacitor, I had few psu from customer that fail to power up pc I replaced bad cap to new one match same as old it work fine, Never know happen??? pfff

John
 
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