TS10: Can you overlap parts of layouts when you need to merge layouts?

Red_Rattler

Since 09 May 2003
Please don't tell you can't overlap routes when merging.

The reason I'm asking is that I had multiple versions of the same route, just as a backup, but the problem is that

I accidentally continued part of the route (it includes a new underground section going from _____ to _____ via _____) on one of the older versions instead of the latest version, and now because of that, part of the track I already laid is missing.

I was going to post something, but forget what.

If the title still comes up with TS20, that of course, should be TS10.
 
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The only way I can think of achieving this is to delete the offending base board off the primary "A" route, then take "B" and delete everything except the board with your underground section, and merge that back into "A".

Nicholas
 
Moving assets from one route to another using the layers feature

Dear Red_ratter

If you have not added baseboards while adding the extension then try this:
Caveat: no guarantee that this will work, just a suggestion.

Assumption: Part of route A needs to move to route B.

Back up your routes A and B to cdp files in case of accidents, using distinctive names.
Edit route A ( the one that has the extended parts).
Create a new route-layer, call it "extension" or whatever else you like.
Move all the extended parts into the extension layer.

In Layers tab, drag the extension layer down into the Session panel, above the session layer.
Save the map and session, naming the session as "extended session".

In CMP, find the kuid of route B, to which you want to add the extension.
Edit the config file of "extended session", replacing the Map Kuid number with the kuid of the route B found above.
Do the same with the map kuid in the kuid table of the extended session config file.

Commit the session.

In Surveyor, edit route B. You should now see the extended session as an option.
Edit the extended session and drag the layer you created up into the Route-layer panel.

Save the route with a new name.

Tip: When moving the assets to the extension layer, hide the extension layer. As you re-assign assets they will disappear from the screen. In this way you can see any parts that you missed in the original.

Note: Saved route 'A' no longer contains the parts that were in the extension layer, they have moved to another map.

Assets such as stations and industries have a presence in both the route- and session layers and may need to be relaid or set up again.

Moving assets between versions is unreliable, especially when moving downwards.

Please let us know the outcome if you attempt this exercise.

Cheers - Trevor
 
Dear Red_ratter

If you have not added baseboards while adding the extension then try this:
I did add baseboards, but not on the affected part

Not sure what you are exactly getting at, at the moment, but what I've done is to just to save each layout twice, but with two different names, at the moment.

I need to continue this later.
 
So you want to copy and move the "affected part" from one layout to the other.

Using my method you move all the assets comprising the affected part into a new layer, move the new layer to the session panel and then save route and session. This extracts only the affected parts and collects them together in a layer that you later move to the other layout.

By changing the map kuid of the session only, you cause it to be attached to the other layout, so when you open route B it now contains the assets you specified from route A as well. You then move the new layer back to the route-layer panel and can merge it with the existing route layer if desired, or keep it separate.

From the point of view of route A this is a subtractive process in that the selected assets are no longer present, since they are in the session which is now absent. You backup of the original will not be affected.

The added baseboards should also not make any difference, provided that the boards where the affected assets lie are present.

Now who thinks that this is an innovative way of making use of layers?

Trevor
 
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