....Trainz Options...

roymac

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.......I am hoping that some of you can post your "trainz options." I am trying to test out which would give me the best possible performance. Also, I have to try and determine why my Trainz 04 will not open to 'full window' mode. I think it may have something to do with the above. In playing around with mine, I did something as after that I experienced my problem.

Thanks,

roymac
 
Hi Roymac,

Here is mine:

-DepthBits=24
-StencilBits=8
-keepallresources=1 --->Keeps resources loaded in memory
-framestoaverage=8 --->seems to reduce stutter
-fastmenus
-arealimit=400
-surveyorfov=75 --->wider FOV for building terrain, reduce for detail
-ShowKuids
-cabinfov=65 --->wider FOV
-driverfov=60 --->wider FOV
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
// REQUIRED OPTIONS (DO NOT CHANGE)
//
-Jet=bin
-time=0.0

I run TRS2004 under Win2000 Pro on a AMD 4000+ at 2.4 Mkz. 2 gigs RAM Nvidia 7600 GS with 512 megs. Trainz is running in 1600 x 1200 with AA at 2x + setting. NGO optimized drivers.

I saw the same problem with screen size when I had to switch monitors for a while. My 19" needed repairs so I used a 17" LCD that only supported 1280 x 1024 so I added the width and height lines to force TRS04 to that mode. When the 19" came back I took out the lines and 1600 x 1200 worked fine but when I tried to switch to 1024 x 768 as a speed test when trying new drivers all I could get was a 1024 x 768 window running trainz on my 1600 x 1200 desktop. The mouse would not go outside of the Trainz window until I shutdown Trainz. Don't know what caused that but it doesn't matter since I run at the highest resolution anyway.

William
 
.......I am hoping that some of you can post your "trainz options." I am trying to test out which would give me the best possible performance. Also, I have to try and determine why my Trainz 04 will not open to 'full window' mode. I think it may have something to do with the above. In playing around with mine, I did something as after that I experienced my problem.

Thanks,

roymac

Howdy.........Did you try to include -FULLSCREEN in your TrainzOptions???:confused:
 
Hi Roymac,

Here is mine:

-DepthBits=24
-StencilBits=8
-keepallresources=1 --->Keeps resources loaded in memory
-framestoaverage=8 --->seems to reduce stutter
-fastmenus
-arealimit=400
-surveyorfov=75 --->wider FOV for building terrain, reduce for detail
-ShowKuids
-cabinfov=65 --->wider FOV
-driverfov=60 --->wider FOV
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
// REQUIRED OPTIONS (DO NOT CHANGE)
//
-Jet=bin
-time=0.0

I run TRS2004 under Win2000 Pro on a AMD 4000+ at 2.4 Mkz. 2 gigs RAM Nvidia 7600 GS with 512 megs. Trainz is running in 1600 x 1200 with AA at 2x + setting. NGO optimized drivers.

I saw the same problem with screen size when I had to switch monitors for a while. My 19" needed repairs so I used a 17" LCD that only supported 1280 x 1024 so I added the width and height lines to force TRS04 to that mode. When the 19" came back I took out the lines and 1600 x 1200 worked fine but when I tried to switch to 1024 x 768 as a speed test when trying new drivers all I could get was a 1024 x 768 window running trainz on my 1600 x 1200 desktop. The mouse would not go outside of the Trainz window until I shutdown Trainz. Don't know what caused that but it doesn't matter since I run at the highest resolution anyway.

William


Hi William,

Thanks for posting the info. I have not had an issue with 'full screen mode' in the past. However, it was only after playing with the 'trainz options' that it arose. Obviously in my case, something in them was important. What is really interesting here though is the mixed responses to whether or not anything really changes when playing with all the available options. As I said, in my case something did but frankly, when adjusting other things........nothing does.

Over the years I have tried many times to play with them in the hopes of improving the overall performance of my TRS04 but as I mentioned, nothing of any real signifance every changed when playing with them. In the end, I just came the conclusion that the game or sim, was just not designed for optimum performance from day one. It is at best 'acceptable' but Auran have not put the development into improving the graphics engine or have even attempted to improve it enough to bring it into the 21s Century. I have learned to live with it but have often thought what would it be like if such efforts were made!!!

Sys specs: 3.00 gigahertz Intel Pentium 4, 2048 Megabytes Installed Memory, ASUSTeK Computer INC. P5GD1-VM Mother Board, NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS w/512MB and a Philips 170S [Monitor] 17" Flat Screen

..........and it stills stutters!!!!

roymac
 
Hi Roymac,

I built this PC for the sole purpose of running Trainz. I chose Win2000 to be able to turn off almost everything running in the background. On all but the most polygon heavy routes, I can run at a level that pleases me. The biggest improvement comes from the NGO drivers. They are much better than the stock Nvidia drivers.

William
 
Hi Roymac,

I built this PC for the sole purpose of running Trainz. I chose Win2000 to be able to turn off almost everything running in the background. On all but the most polygon heavy routes, I can run at a level that pleases me. The biggest improvement comes from the NGO drivers. They are much better than the stock Nvidia drivers.

William

....hi William.

It appears that you may have the same Video Card that I do however, I am not familiar with the NGO drivers you mention. I will have to look into them but, do I run the risk of having them affect other aspects of my computer should I elect to install them? And by the way, I got my Trainz to run in full screen mode by adding that line to my Trainz Options so I want to thank 'manjoe' for the suggestion.

roymac
 
I too have an Nv 7600 (w/ 256 unfortunately) and would be interested in NGO drivers. Any info. on them appreciated.
 
....hi William.

It appears that you may have the same Video Card that I do however, I am not familiar with the NGO drivers you mention. I will have to look into them but, do I run the risk of having them affect other aspects of my computer should I elect to install them? And by the way, I got my Trainz to run in full screen mode by adding that line to my Trainz Options so I want to thank 'manjoe' for the suggestion.

roymac

Howdy roymac...You are very welcome. I too get a lot of help here. There is a web site, the AURANSHIRE COUNTY RAILWAY, where they did some comparisons of different configurations of TRAINZOPTIONS. I think they call it a 100 SECOND TEST. Anyway, it is at www.trainz.me.uk/config.htm. Here, several individuals were asked to supply their trainzoptions just as you did. They do conclude by showing the "frames per second" in both OPEN GL and DIRECTX for the different trainzoptions set-ups for both CAB view and TRACKING view. Maybe it will help. Good luck.:wave:
 
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NGO Drivers

I have a computer with a 7600GT video card and am running TRS 2006 with the NGO drivers with no apparent glitches. The improvement in frame rates compared to those with the latest nVidia drivers was substancial in most layouts, except for those having extensive scenery such as GLoucester Terminal Railroad.
 
NGOHQ.com

The website is www.ngohq.com.

These are the stock Nvidia drivers that have been tweaked to improve performance in 3D games. You can read about the changes on the site. They use the standard Nvidia install app. I'm using the 2.15822 version which is built on the latest Forceware drivers. I run graphic and 3D software on the same PC and I've not seen any downside to using these drivers. Both TRS2004 and TRS2006 run much smoother than with the latest Nvidia drivers. Of course, do a system restore point before installing them. I do this before installing any driver of any type. It makes undoing changes much easier.

William
 
Thanks wreeder,


I'll give this a go. :) I run a nVidia Geforce 7600 GT so I'm sure I'd gain something from this.

:wave:

Gisa ^^
 
I'd like to download the most recent version but I'm a bit confused as to which one would suit me best.

happyj, I noticed you have the same video card as me and are sucessfully running these drivers. :) Can you tell me which version you elected to use? :D

:wave:

Gisa ^^
 
Gisa

I used the same as WReeder who suggested them to me, version 2.15822. So far they have performed extremely well in both TRS 2004 and 2006.

Cheers
 
Need some advice :(

Thanks happyj for the advice. I'm not a 100% expert when it comes to computers but I was wondering if you and some others here could give me some advice:

Currently, I'm running the most recent forceware drivers from nVidia. I noticed you guys are mentioning the drivers alone. As I noticed that there are forceware drivers and just graphics drivers, I'm somewhat confused as to what I should download. What is the difference between the two? I *think* my soundcard is built into video card, but I'm not sure. I tried to find out the information when I ran dxdiag but it just said NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio under name and NFORCE_VAD under Device ID. Should I just go with the drivers or the forceware drivers? :confused:

:wave:

Gisa ^^
 
Here is what the webpage says:

The NGO NVIDIA Optimized Driver is a modified version of the NVIDIA ForceWare driver. The main purpose is to satisfy the users with better performance, image quality and compatibility. The NGO NVIDIA Optimized Driver can enhance your experience in games, multimedia and general usage. This project is especially suited for enthusiasts and gamers that want to have the best gaming experience.

This driver includes NVIDIA's new Control Panel. We’ve preferred to include the new Control Panel over the old one due to flexibility and stability reasons. The Driver has support for all GeForce/Quadro cards – including mobile series (Go) as well. This driver has a special compatibility mode option that provides better stability, and workaround for some known bugs.

Changes
* Based on NVIDIA ForceWare 158.22
* Sedona has been enabled by default
* Fixed SLI related bugs
* Fixed resolutions detection bug

Supported GPUs
* GeForce 2-8 Series
* GeForce Go Series
* Quadro Series
* GeForce/nForce IGP (Integrated GPU) Series

Supported OSes
* Windows 2000
* Windows XP
* Windows 2003
* Windows Media Center

Gisa, the term Forceware seems to be a marketing term used by Nvidia to describe the actual drivers and the software installed to support the drivers. The NGO drivers use the same installer and install the same software as what you have now. The difference is that they have been tweaked to work better for gamers.

I have noticed a big difference from one set of drivers to the next. For a long time I used the Nvidia 93.71 drivers because they seemed to be faster in Trainz. I would try the newest one but would end up going back to the 93.71 version. I find the NGO drivers after seeing them mentioned in a forum for MSTS. In the kind of routes I like to run, mostly rural mountain themes, I get about 25 per second.

By the way, based on the wonderful article on testing cited above. I have increase my -resourcememory setting to 1024. Trainz is running even better now.

William
 
Howdy roymac...You are very welcome. I too get a lot of help here. There is a web site, the AURANSHIRE COUNTY RAILWAY, where they did some comparisons of different configurations of TRAINZOPTIONS. I think they call it a 100 SECOND TEST. Anyway, it is at www.trainz.me.uk/config.htm. Here, several individuals were asked to supply their trainzoptions just as you did. They do conclude by showing the "frames per second" in both OPEN GL and DIRECTX for the different trainzoptions set-ups for both CAB view and TRACKING view. Maybe it will help. Good luck.:wave:


........as a follow-up to making adjustments, I looked at the examples and results posted then went to my own Trainz Options to make the changes.....which was to go with the 'simple' settings as suggested by Auran. I put my resourcememory to 512, then to 768 and I will make one last adjustment to 1024. I did notice an improvement even at the 512 mark. At the 768 mark I can't say anything significant was noticed and have yet to test the 1024 settings. The NGO drivers I have not installed as I want to test the above out first.

I have been testing this out on my Edge County Route which is finished and was going to upload but given my problems with frame-rates, I decided not to. This route has given me some real problems with this issue. Not sure why mind you, as all my other routes I have built while heavy in the detail department, run well for me.

roymac
 
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