Trainz-build numbers below 3.7 are no longer supported....

Grrrrrrrr, just did a search for Installed + out of date and guess what 9604 Assets remaining to validate.

Very odd as it started with 921 then 3339 then 6357 then 9640 then started going down again.

Just as well I'm not restricted to one PC for Trainz

Seeing this makes me not want to start up CM today! :eek:

Edit: I just bit the bullet and started up CM and got a weird message in the TADDaemon console:

0:10.2 : ~TADServerTransaction> command=102 duration=9220
0:11.8 : DownloadTask::DoPlanetAuranLogin> logging in to planet auran
0:14.1 : ~TADServerTransaction> command=2 duration=2516
0:32.6 : 0 assets total, 20868 assets changed states
1:27.8 : ~TADServerTransaction> command=70 duration=2438

Now my Out of Date asset list shows 15 assets with an N/A file size.

CPR Budd Baggage car,<kuid:316:10003>
CPR Budd Dining Car,<kuid2:316:10007:4>
CPR Budd Dome Buffet Coach,<kuid2:316:10008:4>
CPR 'Chateau' Sleeping Car,<kuid2:316:10010:4>
CPR 'Manor' Series Sleeping Car,<kuid2:316:10009:4>
Farm Buildings Snow,<kuid:1942:26056>
hog69,<kuid:9:21069>
roadsign kanga,<kuid:523:23266>
SAR FBX Flatcar Staked,<kuid2:1854:6065:1>
SAR OB Gondola,<kuid2:1854:6062:1>
SS Tipper Car Loaded,<kuid2:523:101060:2>
XING 1 lights,<kuid:523:23296>
XING 1 US lights,<kuid:523:23274>
XING 2 lights,<kuid:523:23300>
XING 4 lights,<kuid:523:23302>

and a check of the asset versions shows nothing new available....

A recheck of the Out of Data filter I have (Out of date = True/Installed = True/ Obsolete = False) now shows 160 assets, and all of these are N/A and are all built-in like the ones above or part of DLC.

Something has gone funky up there that needs a look at.

John
 
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Nearly two hours now and still going ............ What have I done to deserve this????
Peter

In TRS2006 none of this constant: TAD update, error checking, and validation, carp ever happened ... When, 09, 10, 12 were released ... That is when Trainz went completely downhill ... Perhaps N3V should go back to what TRS2006 was, and develope their "New Engine" in TRS2006 ... TRS2006 never had any problems ... Now with all this complicated constant: TAD update, error checking, and validation, carp ... Trainz is a disgusting chore ... And Trainz is no longer any fun anymore ... N3V has made a series of developmental mistakes in Trainz, and surely T:ANE will have the absolute worst constant: TAD update, error checking, and validation, carp, ruining all the fun !
 
I will now say I am out of business until tomorrow. I have started on the 41,000-plus validation again.

So much for Trainzing today...

John

EDIT: I have sent a note to the helpdesk regarding this issue.
 
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Seeing this makes me not want to start up CM today! :eek:

Edit: I just bit the bullet and started up CM and got a weird message in the TADDaemon console:

0:10.2 : ~TADServerTransaction> command=102 duration=9220
0:11.8 : DownloadTask::DoPlanetAuranLogin> logging in to planet auran
0:14.1 : ~TADServerTransaction> command=2 duration=2516
0:32.6 : 0 assets total, 20868 assets changed states
1:27.8 : ~TADServerTransaction> command=70 duration=2438

Now my Out of Date asset list shows 15 assets with an N/A file size.

CPR Budd Baggage car,<kuid:316:10003>
CPR Budd Dining Car,<kuid2:316:10007:4>
CPR Budd Dome Buffet Coach,<kuid2:316:10008:4>
CPR 'Chateau' Sleeping Car,<kuid2:316:10010:4>
CPR 'Manor' Series Sleeping Car,<kuid2:316:10009:4>
Farm Buildings Snow,<kuid:1942:26056>
hog69,<kuid:9:21069>
roadsign kanga,<kuid:523:23266>
SAR FBX Flatcar Staked,<kuid2:1854:6065:1>
SAR OB Gondola,<kuid2:1854:6062:1>
SS Tipper Car Loaded,<kuid2:523:101060:2>
XING 1 lights,<kuid:523:23296>
XING 1 US lights,<kuid:523:23274>
XING 2 lights,<kuid:523:23300>
XING 4 lights,<kuid:523:23302>

and a check of the asset versions shows nothing new available....

A recheck of the Out of Data filter I have (Out of date = True/Installed = True/ Obsolete = False) now shows 160 assets, and all of these are N/A and are all built-in like the ones above or part of DLC.

Something has gone funky up there that needs a look at.

John

John, good buddy, I feel for you, sir!

Just curious, why is it given you such a headache,?

Good Luck, tho!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ishie
 
...surely T:ANE will have the absolute worst constant: TAD update, error checking, and validation, carp, ruining all the fun !

I have tested this in T:ANE and while the validations still occur they are not as invasive and do not render the game useless while they are taking place. No fish are present either.
 
John, good buddy, I feel for you, sir!

Just curious, why is it given you such a headache,?

Good Luck, tho!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ishie

I would like to know too. This is punishment. It appears I'm not the only one though. I do have some DLC routes and content so maybe that's why plus I did import my old stuff from my previous versions some time ago. A DBR showed nothing out of the ordinary, and when I did use TS12 the other day it was working quite spiffy and I was pleased.

At any rate the list jumped up to 464 assets and then the big validation started. Just like a few days ago when I posted my other thread on the same issue. I put in a ticket as there's definitely something amiss here.

John
 
I would like to know too. This is punishment. It appears I'm not the only one though. I do have some DLC routes and content so maybe that's why plus I did import my old stuff from my previous versions some time ago. A DBR showed nothing out of the ordinary, and when I did use TS12 the other day it was working quite spiffy and I was pleased.

At any rate the list jumped up to 464 assets and then the big validation started. Just like a few days ago when I posted my other thread on the same issue. I put in a ticket as there's definitely something amiss here.

John

John, have you consider a re-installed .... it will give you a fresh start!

A very long time ago I was having serious issues with T12, so I bit the bullet, and deleted everything... Next day re-installed, applied patches, and only download ed was I need it --- I had specific routes on external hard drives so that helped to install those fast!

Ishie!
 
John, have you consider a re-installed .... it will give you a fresh start!

A very long time ago I was having serious issues with T12, so I bit the bullet, and deleted everything... Next day re-installed, applied patches, and only download ed was I need it --- I had specific routes on external hard drives so that helped to install those fast!

Ishie!

Did that already. This is a nice clean install and it's only really, really recently that this started. I did have an issue last year but that went away and it isn't related to this. I'm not the only one this time though. Peter White, Nexus, Clam1952, and others are getting the same thing today. I notified the help desk and we'll see...

The other day before I had this happen, the performance, under Windows 10 by the way, was the best I've ever seen for TS12. The disk access was quick, my menus were flying open with little delay and I was able to jump between the different functions and categories in Surveyor as though I was using TRS2004. Then I got hit with this earlier this week and now again today, so the program install is fine this time around. This is a technical issue with the validation server it seems. Remember there were some changes done previously so that maybe the issue.

John
 
Did that already. This is a nice clean install and it's only really, really recently that this started. I did have an issue last year but that went away and it isn't related to this. I'm not the only one this time though. Peter White, Nexus, Clam1952, and others are getting the same thing today. I notified the help desk and we'll see...

The other day before I had this happen, the performance, under Windows 10 by the way, was the best I've ever seen for TS12. The disk access was quick, my menus were flying open with little delay and I was able to jump between the different functions and categories in Surveyor as though I was using TRS2004. Then I got hit with this earlier this week and now again today, so the program install is fine this time around. This is a technical issue with the validation server it seems. Remember there were some changes done previously so that maybe the issue.

John

Wow ... good luck, and keep us inform!

Hopefully, the helpdesk can settle these issues for you, and those having problems, too!

I am surprise the re-install did not helped!

Off-topic ...I've been following the development of windows 10 since last year, and I can tell you John, I think they finally got it right! Never like windows 8 or viste! Windows 7 here! Windows 10 will be equip to handle hardcore games, since Microsoft had embedded xbox inside windows 10!... got more to say but I'll leave it at that, since don't want to get off track on this thread!


Ishie
 
Well, I'm pleased I started this thread. I've been quite emotional about this issue (apologies if that's shown a bit too much), but I thought it was worth making a case and seeing if N3V would respond to their user/creator base. So builds 3.5 and 3.6 are supported through to Sep 2016 and the world as we thought it was is restored! Now, where is that V2 loco and tender upload I was working on....

Paul
 
similar problems with validation today

first 8000 or so assets were validating when i opened CM. i waited about an hour for that to complete. I had 4 brand new assets to install so i installed those only to find they were saying that many components were missing even though some were built-in items. i began a database repair...

didnt help.

this happens every time there is a change to the DLS or DLC server for me, because i have items on the store it renders my current items useless. it usually takes about a day before all of my things are useful again.

 
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Oddly enough, I have not had to endure any validation today.

EDIT: Spoke too soon, menus of Trainz taking forever to load due to validation.
 
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yay for leaving CM open in the background for days on end XD. Mind, Im only using it to export CDP's for T:ANE, but I haven't had to validate yet today. TS12 or T:ANE.

@TonyHillman
Glad you've made the decision you did, and I hope the changes you discuss for the future are as awesome as they sound. I for one would like to get into more content creation besides route building, but have never really had the time to do all the playing and investigating on my own that it seems to take to do that.... So having an up to date wiki with at least some pointers (If not outright instructions) would be much appreciated. Why not try to grow our community of Creators by making it easier for people to learn?

-Falcus
 
It appears that these issues are a side effect of the recent validation code update. The guys have taken a look and think they have resoled the problems, so please let us know if you still experience problems.
 
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