Trainz 2022 Needs to Move Forward—Not Backward

[Jayco-man]

I myself have moved on to the new, if you don't then you get left behind like with any other software.

 

[pware]

if you don't then you get left behind like with any other software.

I hope that does not happen. With software used by professionals, serious enthusiasts/amateurs and the like I can understand the need to move on to the new, but not when the activity it supports is a hobby. Hobbyists do not want to spend their "hobby-time" tied down trying to learn or use a new confusing interface. Certainly, provide the new as an option for those who want it and can use it, but don't throw out the experience and enthusiasm of many users simply to keep up with modern standards.

 

[Paulsw2]

I agree with these sentiments. I commonly toggle between both (love S2.0 for working on splines) and I'm happy to have them side by side in the game. However, I doubt it's efficient for N3V to have two UIs hard wired into Surveyor so I've always assumed they'll move exclusively to S2.0 for the next version of the game. That will be a wrench for many people!

 

[IsambardKingdomBrunel]

Will be for me i do everything in S1. S2 is much too complicated for me personally.

Mike.

 

[pfx]

I use both 1 and 2 as I find some tasks easier in one than the other. The UI of 2 definitely needs a lot of improvement though as it is nowhere near as intuitive as 1, granted, there are a lot more features but I find it hard to muddle through some of them.

 

[JCitron]

I use both 1 and 2 as I find some tasks easier in one than the other. The UI of 2 definitely needs a lot of improvement though as it is nowhere near as intuitive as 1, granted, there are a lot more features but I find it hard to muddle through some of them.

That's the same for me. I find I require some extra thinking when it comes to some tasks whereas I can spend hours clicking and moving between tools in Classic Surveyor almost blindly. I suppose it's due to the fact that this version of Surveyor has been with us since the early days.

Yesterday, S2.0 showed off its advantages to me. I was merging in a segment from another route into my larger monster. This required trimming baseboards on the bigger route and then test fitting the chunk.

In Classic Surveyor, this would've meant reverting to a previous version after testing should the piece not fit properly and retrimming then saving a new version before trying again. Using S2.0 I was able to select a gazillion baseboards and remove them, test the fit, then undo the trimming before inserting the route chunk.

Once inserted, I used a scrapbook tree brush I created and continued a forest over a tween board to blend the two routes together and smoothed and blended the terrain easily.

Instead of taking me hours, I had this done in under an hour. The rest of the afternoon was spent tweaking and fiddling about as I adjusted some bridges and tracks elsewhere on the route.

 

[SanJuanPacific]

I have barely touched 2.0. Heck, I've barely touched TRS22 as a whole, as there's almost 200GB of data that would need to be transferred into a new folder before it would even work. If I hadn't gotten it on sale I probably wouldn't own it. I took a look at Surveyor 2.0, and I thought it had some very nice features, but otherwise I just don't see the point in switching quite yet. That and using S1.0 for almost half my life, it would take a lot of getting used to to switch over.