Trainspotting Terrorist

Easy to say. I tell people that I use to commission and set to work nuclear reactor instrumentation on submarines but they don't believe me.

It really doesn't matter whether you believe me or not. I guess the only thing that would convince you would be release of some documents that aren't going to be released. Debating the issue is a waste of time. I made a statement. You can choose to believe it or not, that's your decision. As I said, this isn't WikiLeaks.

Mike
 
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Of course, Benjamin Franklin said that, not me.

Our government, in it's current state will never let a good crisis go to waste. I read that a certain school district is banning the wearing of a certain type of boot because they can be used to smuggle cell phones into classes. Naturally the solution is to ban the boots, as if the boots are the cause of the smuggling. Same with firearms, same with everything...ban the object! The object caused the crime!

I find it hard to believe that so many stupid people supposedly graduated from so many brilliant schools!

People commit crimes, and if a person is engaging in suspicious activity, let them be investigated. If that person is just a rail fan, then drop the investigation, give back all his stuff and a hearty apology and compensate him for his difficulties. If, however he is the next brand name terrorist, then do the same, but give him a hearty double tap instead of the apology.

Cameras do not kill people.
If we outlaw all cameras, then only outlaws will own cameras!:o
 
Trainspotters do need to inform the station supervisor that they intend on doing some trainspotting and also take photographs in this country
 
It really doesn't matter whether you believe me or not. I guess the only thing that would convince you would be release of some documents that aren't going to be released. Debating the issue is a waste of time. I made a statement. You can choose to believe it or not, that's your decision. As I said, this isn't WikiLeaks.

Mike

In other words a pointless statement from yourself, am I right or wrong?

Rob.
 
No more pointless than the post that I was commenting on. I suppose that you think everything that happens is public knowledge.

Mike
 
No more pointless than the post that I was commenting on. I suppose that you think everything that happens is public knowledge.

Mike

I assume the post that you refer to is the first one in this thread from yourself commenting on the post by NikkiA?

Is everything that happens public knowledge? I don't know the answer to that question. Indeed one may ask the question thus: should everything that happens be public knowledge? Again, I don't know the answer to that.

Rob.
 
Trainspotters do need to inform the station supervisor that they intend on doing some trainspotting and also take photographs in this country

They don't *need* to, it's a common curtsey, since it is their property, but the default state in the UK is that photography is allowed unless otherwise sign-posted, or informed, even on private property.

That's to say, if you DON'T ask, they can get mad, and ask you to leave their property, without extending any kind of option of you doing so within their limitations. But they have to tell you to stop, or post signage that says 'no photography'. Of course, more likely they just call the police rather than deal with any confrontation themselves, and the police are woefully ignorant on the 'rights' (actually, no rights, just a lack of laws) concerning photography - so much so that the heads of the police forces have had to send memos to their employees several times over the last 10 years.

Either way, it's not a 'crime', since the only possible bad thing to result is that they can bring a trespassing case against you, which is a civil act not a criminal act in most of the UK (Scotland has trespassing as a criminal offense, but they're weird anyway :).

But yes, if you ask, then they're likely to grant you the ability to take photos, at least at the smaller stations, the bigger stations tend to be managed by feckless idiots that are unable to think of anything on their own.

(Many of the big stations have 'no photography is permitted' signage anyway)

Now, again, I specifically kept off of the station (which is non-staffed, and doesn't even have a ticket machine), and remained purely on the public right of way which I have every legal right to take photographs from (since there isn't a military base within about a dozen miles of here), in the situation I mentioned earlier. If the driver in question had reported it, it would likely have resulted in a visit by the hi-vis thugs without any station staff on hand (and may have anyway, since the police are so poorly trained in this area that they'll happily dispatch some to confront you, even threaten and intimidate you until you get them to talk to someone at their station that actually knows the law or is able to read.
 
I assume the post that you refer to is the first one in this thread from yourself commenting on the post by NikkiA?

Is everything that happens public knowledge? I don't know the answer to that question. Indeed one may ask the question thus: should everything that happens be public knowledge? Again, I don't know the answer to that.

Rob.

Certainly it's hard to believe that any actual terrorist caught photographing a target with a dslr would not be charged and tried, and thus would not be reported on by the press.

So, as with any 'you don't hear about everything that happens' claim regarding the efficacy of TSA/other anti-terrorism hysteria, my stance is 'it likely didn't happen (or is extremely exaggerated from reality), and someone somewhere made up the claim to bolster their own claims'
 
should everything that happens be public knowledge?

Rob.

I thought that would be your answer. It tells me all that I need to know. You've exposed yourself. Debate over.

Mike

That statement is a question, not an answer. Please enlighten me, if you can, about what it tells you.

I do hope there wasn't anyone around with a camera taking pictures when I exposed myself!

Rob.
 
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@Mike and Rob, get an e-mail account. Black = White therefore it's 42.

With regards to the OP and debate on photography anywhere, clearly the eejit in this video thought differently. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8zqNe0ujwE

I can only applaud the film maker for not losing his temper with her and her idiotic husband.
 
@Mike and Rob, get an e-mail account. Black = White therefore it's 42.

With regards to the OP and debate on photography anywhere, clearly the eejit in this video thought differently. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8zqNe0ujwE

I can only applaud the film maker for not losing his temper with her and her idiotic husband.

@pfx. Is that a mathematically proven equation and do you have proof of the existence of 42?

I managed to sit through about 4 minutes of that rhubarb and then turned it off! Did I miss anything interesting in the remaining 3 minutes of the video?

Rob.
 
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I think the videographer got his grill punched out, by the husband that showed up: "Why are you intimidating and filming my wife" ? lol
 
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Not quite Rob. The husband must have had a faulty CD as he just kept say "why are you filming my wife?" over and over again. If it had been me, I'd have broken his nose.
 
Not quite Rob. The husband must have had a faulty CD as he just kept say "why are you filming my wife?" over and over again. If it had been me, I'd have broken his nose.

Hmm, that would be interesting viewing!
 
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I live in Colorado Springs, and coal trains pass through Air Force academy grounds regularly without suspicion. If your lucky you can also see trains delivering air force equipment to the academy.:udrool: Just recently i saw a bunch of tanks on the way to fort carson (i guess that army). Interestingly, i have also seen boeing fuselages and engines headed tward denver. this is neat because it combines my two loves (trains & planes:udrool: ) Recently in the latest issue of trains Magazine they showed the very same train LOL! oh, ANd a month or so ago as i was in the car on the way downtown, i noticed that in addition to the usual ES44's and SD70MAC locos that grind their way up the grade to the power plant 27 times a day with the black consist, an old sd of some type (maybe an original 70 or something) with the old non isolated cab was mixed in. interestingly it was still bearing its blue and white EMD paint job. I only saw it for a few seconds, and i haven't seen it since. wierd, i wonder what it was doing.
 
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I live in Colorado Springs, and coal trains pass through Air Force academy grounds regularly without suspicion. If your lucky you can also see trains delivering air force equipment to the academy.:udrool: Just recently i saw a bunch of tanks on the way to fort carson (i guess that army). Interestingly, i have also seen boeing fuselages and engines headed tward denver. this is neat because it combines my two loves (trains & planes:udrool: ) Recently in the latest issue of trains Magazine they showed the very same train LOL! oh, ANd a month or so ago as i was in the car on the way downtown, i noticed that in addition to the usual ES44's and SD70MAC locos that grind their way up the grade to the power plant 27 times a day with the black consist, an old sd of some type (maybe an original 70 or something) with the old non isolated cab was mixed in. interestingly it was still bearing its blue and white EMD paint job. I only saw it for a few seconds, and i haven't seen it since. wierd, i wonder what it was doing.
 
The threat of terrorism in the UK comes from any number of sources as the 7/7 bombings of the London Underground clearly demonstrated.
But remember what the police said? They asked if anyone had any photographic and/or video evidence of what happened.

Sounds like their may be to this story, than what we're being told.
 
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