Tonneage signals

[Railwayz]

I have a portion of my layout that has long continuous grades with tight curves over several kilometres. In real life there is such a thing as a tonneage signal at the base of these grades which means that any trains over a certain tonneage must wait at the nominated signal until it is in the full clear position. Is there anything like this for Trainz?

Railwayz

 

[matruck]

Not unless you have checked out all of Natvander's Aussie Signal's, Is it just a sign plate on the signal mast or an actual lit signal as i've not seen one but would like too.
Cheers Mick.

 

[Railwayz]

Not unless you have checked out all of Natvander's Aussie Signal's, Is it just a sign plate on the signal mast or an actual lit signal as i've not seen one but would like too.
Cheers Mick.

None of Natvanders signals would fit this bill. There is an instruction plate fitted to the signal in real life but there is nothing physically to prevent a driver from passing it if he didn't see it. I was thinking of something like a trigger or similar that would stop a train at the signal if it weighed a specified amount until the signal was fully cleared. In Sydney there are tonneage signals at Normanhurst and Hawkesbury River just to name a couple. My layout incorporates the Hawkesbury River bank and I'd like to have the tonneage signals work for AI trains.

Railwayz

 

[matruck]

Wow cool i just started a section from Wyee thru to Newcastle, If it was just a plate type sign i could more then likely make it but you would have to find sumone who could then make it work the way you wanted in game if that could be done.
Mick.

 

[Railwayz]

Sounds like the beginnings of a plan. I'll have a look and see if I can find the plans for the sign and what it has written on it.

Thanks,

Railwayz

 

[matruck]

Here ya go with a bit of help from a good friend we have managed to come up with this


There is another i found that says "Trains over the prescribed load to wait until signal full clear"
Cheers Mick.

 

[Railwayz]

That looks good Mick, I haven't seen that plate before. Do you know where it's used? The one I was thinking of was the latter "signal full clear plate"

Railwayz

 

[matruck]

The pic's are not mine Railwayz but here is what i found so far on these
http://www.flickr.com/photos/83791520@N00/5842148188/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/83791520@N00/5841601473/
The second pic is the one your after and both these were taken at Valley Height's and i have no idea where that is sorry i have not looked in to it much more yet.
Mick.
P.S This is the one you want in game.

I'll pack it up and send it your way for a look and see what ya think.

 

[Railwayz]

Ahhh, no wonder I hadn't seen that plate before. I haven't run to Lithgow for a while and it must be relatively new. Valley Heights is around about a third of the way up the Blue Mountains heading to Lithgow. It formerly had a small roundhouse and workshops which was lastly used for stabling electric engines such as the 46 class that were used for banking (assisting) trains up the steeper grades to Katoomba. Now the roundhouse is part of the Thirlmere rail museum. The refuge sidings are still in use so that InterCity sets can overtake the slower goods as they gingerly descend the mountain.

The second plate would do nicely if you could please.

Railwayz

 

[ElStoko]

Getting a train to behave correctly in approaching a tonnage signal is not best achieved by altering the signal script. Rather, the schedule of a train that must observe tonnage restrictions can be altered. When such a train has approached within stopping distance of the tonnage signal ( a track mark may indicate this location ), a command such as "Wait until green signal" <kuid2:151055:100101:1> can be inserted into the schedule. If the signal is not green ("Proceed" state), but at some form of caution or stop, then the train will be brought to a stop until the signal becomes green. If it is green on approach, then the train will pass the signal without stopping.
I have not used "Wait until green signal" myself, and so am unsure about how many signal states it can discriminate, and therefore what qualifies as "green". Perhaps this command would require modification to achieve the correct behaviour for the signals you use.

 

[Railwayz]

Getting a train to behave correctly in approaching a tonnage signal is not best achieved by altering the signal script. Rather, the schedule of a train that must observe tonnage restrictions can be altered. When such a train has approached within stopping distance of the tonnage signal ( a track mark may indicate this location ), a command such as "Wait until green signal" <kuid2:151055:100101:1> can be inserted into the schedule. If the signal is not green ("Proceed" state), but at some form of caution or stop, then the train will be brought to a stop until the signal becomes green. If it is green on approach, then the train will pass the signal without stopping.
I have not used "Wait until green signal" myself, and so am unsure about how many signal states it can discriminate, and therefore what qualifies as "green". Perhaps this command would require modification to achieve the correct behaviour for the signals you use.

Thanks ElStoko, I hadn't thought of that. I'll give it go and see. It sounds like it might be ideal.

Railwayz