jjanmarine3
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I suppose for now if it does happen one should or could try and click on your current driver again asap and possibly save a mishap ?
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No matter what I try in my Cheap TRS19 euroversion 111951 I cannot get this error/feature to appear.
Is it limited to Platinum, Plus ?
When developing Set-Driver-Condition-Rule, I always keep 2 version, 1 ready to release, 1 where I experiment
even then its hard not to make mistakes between versions.
Imagine having (just guessing) 8 versions of a very complex software code, it's a disaster waiting to happen.
It was John's answer that confounded me. His reply made it sound like you can choose to "select" a swtich instead of clicking the red or green arrow. Did I mis-read his post? And you mention that Zec said it was a "feature." I dont' see it here, or at least, I don't know how to invoke it nor have I ever seen it accidentally invoked.
John seems to indicate that it can be easily reproduced.
John, see my post 2 replies up. As best I can tell the "clicking on signal" only transports you when the signal you are facing is red. The purpose is this: You come upon a red single and you are not sure why... or, you know why and you just want to change the next junction. Click on the signal and you transport to the junction. Set it's direction and then hit "1" or "3" and you are back in your loco (or line side) as before the transport. Thus, when a red signal is encounted you can swtich the offending junction and be back driving in just a second to two. No need to locate the "bad" junction. No need to fly down the track, or zoom out, to set a junction. Again, it seems that clicking on a "clear" signal (green) you are not transported as there is no opposing junction.
No one has to use this feature. Just don't click on the signal.
This is documented somewhere as I remember reading about this "feature." However, the documentation seems to be of little value because I can't find it anywhere in the wiki. If you can't find it, it may as well not exist.
And also just above, KotangaGirl restates that she is referring to the turnout/switch arrows, not a signal.
What's wrong with this is it takes control from the train completely instead of showing us the junction setting, after clicking on the red signal. By control away, we can't just go back and choose our driver easily and are left stuck until we either click on the driver list, and who thinks of that when confused and in a panic, or pressing 4 to become a free-roamer again.
Odd.. in my case here after I zoom to the junction and set it I only need hit "1" (in cab) or "3" (lineside) and I'm instantly back in my loco running fine. "Getting back" is instant and easy. That doesn't happen for you?
It's only disconcerting and disorienting if you don't know what is happening. Yes, when it first happens you say "What in the world?" - But once you understand it it's nothing. Click signal, you are now at opposing turnout, click turnout arrow, hit "1" and you are back in cab driving. No sweat. Try it again and see if you aren't returned and driving your train by hitting "1" - I will say, I think the driver icon in the HUD does go to "no driver" but I certainly am back driving again regardless if my driver pic is showing or not.
Please know that I'm not advocating it's use or anything. Just explaining that it does seem to work sensibly when understood, if someone wants to use it.
But yes, it is totally counter-intuitive when it transports you right out of your train that way. I tend to run more realistically so I usually either have path set already or I will actually stop and pause and wait for my conductor to go throw the switch. (me) - And you are right, it's not hard to see what is causing the signal to be red. I don't need to be teleported to any offending turnout.
But back to the initial issue: It will be interesting to see if KotangaGirl does in fact verfiy that it's happening on turnouts, not signals.
Something I did wonder about is whether buffer stops are causing sudden flights across the yard as well since buffer stops are designated as being a signal.
I have problems with micro pauses and disjointed thinking due to narcolepsy so by the time I've recovered my wits after being thrown down the yard it's all over and my shunting engine and/or its cut of wagons have derailed and my happy time shunting the yard has been ruined.
Next time it happens I'll try to remember to press either '1' or '3' and see if I'm back in control again or not, but I'm not exactly looking forward to the experiment.
Annie