The V&O Story - large images
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CincySouthernRwy
Trainz Jedi
Exactly like those. I hope to see the V&O scheme on the trailers and some fictional V&O intermodal container skins for some trailers to complement the flat car when it was in the late 70's early 80's and I have a question do you think that the U25B will look good in the V&O scheme?
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yoderscoot
MYOFB
Was I on the list? If I was, I haven't got the file. If I wasn't, put me on it.
cascaderailroad
New member
Those Flying Pig TTX cars look great !
By the way I noticed alot of your screenshots use MP Wood track, and now you use VMD US Mainline Old Dark track...which is you favorite framerate wise ? I tried the VMD track, and thought it was kinking in turnouts, even with the 2m track.
By the way I noticed alot of your screenshots use MP Wood track, and now you use VMD US Mainline Old Dark track...which is you favorite framerate wise ? I tried the VMD track, and thought it was kinking in turnouts, even with the 2m track.
CincySouthernRwy
Trainz Jedi
Those trailers I can do. Check out my NYS&W thread for screenshots of SLN-4 and you will see a few of the double stack cars I use. Few of them are lettered for railroads, and I'm not sure where I would find the container artwork. Perhaps the config file would provide a clue.
As for U25B's, V&O did not roster any. But they would look good. First, I have to make myself interested in PA-1's enough to finish those...
You are now. I sent via yousendit those NYS&W packs you requested and I thought I added the V&O to that. If I hadn't, I certainly can.
Thank you! It's a play on words referring to the history of Cincinnati that my proto-freelance railroad, the Cincinnati Southern Railway, uses as a marketing technique. Someday I'll work on it again. Modeling downtown Cincinnati from pictures other than the opening credits of WKRP in Cincinnati is not easy!
I actually had the VMD track for a couple of years before I found the MP Wood Track. I use it for heavier duty lines. I used the MP Wood Track for lighter duty lines. I think that track, as a model, should give you clues about the operations that go on, just as in real life.
As I see it, the V&O is a heavy duty Class 1 bridge line/coal hauler on the order of a Clinchfield or Western Maryland. It wouldn't survive a B&O-C&O merger or N&W-Southern on its own. It's mainlines should be heavy duty, like the VMD mainline track, on sidings should be just about the same or a little lighter. Thus the track I used. I had the V&O layout all done before I downloaded MP Wood Track. I have gone back and re0laid sidings with MP Rusty Track or the concrete tie version (they look like ties faded to a light gray by the sun) to model specific sidings.
My original goal with the NYS&W was to build the line as seen between 1940 and 1958 when the recession of 1957 began to pull the line back down again. In Paul Tupaczewski's book "NYS&W in Color" (Morning Sun), most of the 1940's and 1950's pics of the eastern end show well-maintained track with the ballast having a slightly reddish tinge to the overall brownish color. I wouldn't say it was quite as red as our Australian friends use, but far redder than I have seen on Chessie System's railroads, for example. So I chose MP Wood Track as a good compromise. The western end shows more of its early 1900's coal-hauling heritage with cinder and culm ballast, so I used JJS Tunnel Track for sidings, but let the main have a more rehabilitated appearance.
The trick with turnouts, I have found, is to make sure the portion before the points is straight with the straightening tool. The diverging should curve, there should be another spline point, a straight section, spline point, then a curve into the diverging route's direction. (I should post a pic...) It looks fine after that. I wonder if your problem is more of a Trainz issue than a track issue. I tend to only use the longer 4m versions. They look the same as the 2m to me, so I never understood why both versions exist.
As for framerate, according to "conventional wisdom", splines reduce framerates more than objects, so none of us should use any track!
I have not noticed a difference between different kinds of track, though. There. :hehe:
yoderscoot
MYOFB
I got all the NYS&W stuff, but I never got the V&O. Yea, go ahead and send it to me.
CincySouthernRwy
Trainz Jedi
Sure thing! It's on its way.
cascaderailroad
New member
Thanks for your nformation about your use of track.
I layed a 1 mile long 16 track yard using VMD-US Mainline Old/Dark track (My favorite). The framerates were absolutely crawling !
I switched it to MP Wood and the framerates are super great, 1000 times better !
MP Rusty is also working great.
What is a good track, framerate wise, that also looks detailed and weathered, comparable to MP Wood ?
It's no great wonder, that alot of the huge great route out there use MP Wood and MP Rusty.
1000 Meters = 0.62137 Miles = 3281 Feet
1609 Meters = 1 Mile = 5280 Feet
720 Meters = 0.44739 Miles = 2362 Feet
I layed a 1 mile long 16 track yard using VMD-US Mainline Old/Dark track (My favorite). The framerates were absolutely crawling !
I switched it to MP Wood and the framerates are super great, 1000 times better !
MP Rusty is also working great.
What is a good track, framerate wise, that also looks detailed and weathered, comparable to MP Wood ?
It's no great wonder, that alot of the huge great route out there use MP Wood and MP Rusty.
1000 Meters = 0.62137 Miles = 3281 Feet
1609 Meters = 1 Mile = 5280 Feet
720 Meters = 0.44739 Miles = 2362 Feet
CincySouthernRwy
Trainz Jedi
Hmmm. Wow. Interesting test you conducted there. I'm inspired to try it out and see what I get. I'd hate to switch. Perhaps the texture could be reused on a lower-poly track? Two of VMD's are my favorites for Class 1 trackage.
I'm actually good at math... when I (sheepishly) bother to do it! (I used to teach chemistry...) I just never checked. The measurement of a baseboard was never more than a curiosity.
CincySouthernRwy
Trainz Jedi
I finally got Windows Movie Maker to work. Seems I needed to update my video driver. I tried other programs, but they were harder to learn than I wanted to invest in making a stupid little video to show off my work.
My first published video is on the V&O.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vV6Sb1Yzvo
My first published video is on the V&O.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vV6Sb1Yzvo
NorfolkSouthern9708
Chillin'
If you don't want to switch to MP-Wood, which is a great track, you can use some of these tracks, low poly too! Just travel down there a little bit. http://www.greenery.name/mstsg/mstsgd.htm?trainz,1
CincySouthernRwy
Trainz Jedi
Thanks for reminding me about Greenery's track. I had forgotten about them.
CincySouthernRwy
Trainz Jedi
For some reason, Greenery's track is not installing. Odd.
CincySouthernRwy
Trainz Jedi
As with the Susquehanna, I've been adding Greenery's weeds and trees to the V&O. The improvement is astounding.
The interchange yard at Elm Grove is much weedier now than seen in this shot:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2650/4093389488_90329a5504_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2606/4133628009_b52b744609_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2523/4133628141_c6bfcaf0fa_o.jpg
In this last shot, I finally replaced the high-poly VMD track with Justin Cornell's Norfolk Southern main track. It's a little light in color, but looks good. I probably just need to adjust to the change.
Maybe tomorrow I'll get a chance to post some photos of the re-forested area around Gage Pass and Highland Wye. Greenery's trees are exquisite.
Happy Thanksgiving!
The interchange yard at Elm Grove is much weedier now than seen in this shot:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2650/4093389488_90329a5504_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2606/4133628009_b52b744609_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2523/4133628141_c6bfcaf0fa_o.jpg
In this last shot, I finally replaced the high-poly VMD track with Justin Cornell's Norfolk Southern main track. It's a little light in color, but looks good. I probably just need to adjust to the change.
Maybe tomorrow I'll get a chance to post some photos of the re-forested area around Gage Pass and Highland Wye. Greenery's trees are exquisite.
Happy Thanksgiving!
buckeye2728
New member
looks good 
NorfolkSouthern9708
Chillin'
Happy Thanksgiving to you also! :wave: Where did you get that tree spine?
Having created a version of the V&O myself and a big fan of the railroad(but nowhere near the quality at what is pictured here), I was just wondering if you were going to release any of the rolling stock to the dls you have created for the V&O? I would sure love to have them rolling on my version. (That is until you release your version:hehe: !!) Anyhow, thanks for your time!
gambroe
gambroe
CincySouthernRwy
Trainz Jedi
What tree spline? Almost everything I use comes from the DLS. Most of the forest splines are David Drake's (World Trees or Tall Trees). Greenery's trees are outstanding, but none of them are splines.
Yes, I will be releasing V&O rolling stock. The upload problems (September 2009 - March 2010) killed several of my V&O packs, but I will eventually get around to re-packaging them. Lots of stuff. I just wish the autoracks would behave. I can't seem to get the colors the way I want with them. Yet. I should probably also make some steamers for the V&O, too.
ANYWAY...
As a further example of the kind of quality work I am pushing to produce with maps/layouts, I decided to take two small projects that I had "completed" and update them to these new, higher standards.
Metro Belt & Terminal v3, kuid2:45588:289130:2, was featured in the April 2001 issue of Model Railroader magazine. Version 1 has been available on the DLS. I had started updating it to version 2 when I started this re-tooling project, so version 2 never got uploaded.
Pennsylvania & Potomac Plan #26, kuid:45588:100020, is taken from "101 Trackplans for Model Railroaders" written by Linn Westcott and published by Kalmbach Publishing sometime around the last ice age. It was inadvertently never uploaded before. It includes a driveable road - just get in a driveable car and chase trains! You can even drive through the engine servicing area and around the passenger station. Layoutvision has a neat article on how to operate this layout. I recommend checking it out.
These two projects will give you an idea of what I am trying to accomplish with the V&O. However, with the new September deadline of not allowing TRS2004/6 uploads and my research to upgrade my hardware, I may have to cut myself short and upload the incomplete project. Such is life. At least a few scenes will be detailed as such, and that may have to be... (get ready for it)....
"good enough". :hehe:
