alfredo_20
Well-known member
RayTracing is in Trainz Road Map
Tainz Railroad Simulator 2026
- Thread starter amigacooke
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skittlekicks
Active member
Ray tracing will push GPUs hard which builds up more heat. Trainz isn't great with optimizations and frankly there are bugs that should be squashed before anything else is added. Why should Trainz become like DT TSW (nothing is fixed but new content is the norm?
IsambardKingdomBrunel
Joined June 2001
Dog Turd Games are far worse than N3V. TSW is not a hobby it is a very shallow game, i know as i own it.
Mike.
amigacooke
Well-known member
Things I like about TSW is you don't need a subscription to use the latest version and the 'upgrade' from 5 to 6 cost me £0.
marmalade32
Well-known member
I don't care for davetail either. Trainz doesn't need to make zombie apocalypse DLC to stay in the eyes of the masses if you humbly ask me
IsambardKingdomBrunel
Joined June 2001
Yeah and the updates break more than they fix. Plus DLC prices are robbery.
amigacooke
Well-known member
At least all the DLC is available to those with the retail product and, like Trainz, much cheaper if you wait for a sale
IsambardKingdomBrunel
Joined June 2001
Each to their own buddy, as far as i am concerned DTG are a bunch of spivs. Regards DLC, it is a complete waste of time buying it, when the base game is full of bugs and inaccuracies.
Even more so than Trainz, which is bad enough.
Even more so than Trainz, which is bad enough.
That is not an argument against introducing ray tracing.
Advances in technology (e.g. better, faster GPUs, more and faster memory, CPUs with more threads, etc) leads to advances in applications (better graphics and animations, faster processing, more options, etc).
The two (technology and applications) drive each other - if we want ray tracing applications in all our graphics then the hardware manufacturers will deliver the technology that can handle the heat.
When new technology arrives, software developers find new ways of applying it.
That is an argument for standing still while the competition runs over you.
Can you name me an application, gaming, utility or productivity, that is free of bugs? It was proven back in the 1940s, before the first digital computer was switched on, that you can never eliminate all the bugs from a program (technically the proof was that you can never prove that a program is "bug free"). So how long should N3V (or Auran as it was back then) have spent attempting the impossible before it introduced the very version of Trainz? If they had we would never be using our favourite train simulator.
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amigacooke
Well-known member
The poster didn't say it should be bug free, just that there are bugs that should be fixed.
davies_mike57
Train Simulator Hobbyist
But which bugs? Ask 6 different users and you will get 12 different answers. Everyone wants their most annoying bugs fixed first but the issue is still the same. You can't fix them all and nor should you waste your time trying.
The Trainz bug reporting system at xRdryu is there for a purpose. It is not perfect, it does not always get results, you do not always get instant (same day) feedback (I rarely have!). I have lost count of the number of times I have used it to report "bugs". I have to say that a significant number of my "bugs" were problems of my own making. I have sometimes waited a week or more before getting feedback, and, on a few occasions, I have never received a response. But I have reported genuine bugs and sometimes have been able to identify their causes. The resulting "bug fix" is not always in the next SP update or in next version released but it does eventually appear - a result of how the software development process works.
I find the common complaint that they should remove "the bugs" (always unspecified number and identities) first before adding new features or releasing new versions to be showing an ignorance of how software development works.
The problem here is as VRAMs are becoming more and more expensive, game developers should think about optimizing more their games rather than introducing new features that only a few can enjoy.
Of course it will.
That is not an official N3V title but based on the cycle of a new release every 2-3 years. But it may well turn out to be called TRS26.
I would expect it to be able to use layouts from TRS19 ,Trainz Plus and TRS22. Probably T:ANE as well but the further back you go the more "issues" you are likely to encounter.
For example: there is a very good case to be made for only using assets that have LODs built in. Already assets that don't use LMs (LODs for bogies and traincar assets) are already being flagged with warnings. At some point in the future, those warnings may become errors.
Newer technology when first introduced always is. But the price drops as production scales up and more competitors release alternative (and often better) products.
I just checked the price of the RTX5050/5060 cards and they are cheaper than what I was looking at for my current RTX3050/3060 cards when they came out.
Ray Tracing is superior to point lighting but has a heavier GPU cost. That cost can and is being reduced by newer techniques and technologies.