whistlehead
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I guess it was for use in those concrete-covered yards, not as much switching involved in getting the loco about on it's own, then couple up and follow the tracks.
Strange Train Prototypes
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norfolksouthern37
what's a normal map?
Crampton used these. Really strange looking and try to wrap your head around how its piston works. It took me forever to figure it out, but I's not spoiling it for you. See if you know.
obviously the center rocks back and forth, whats the red arrow? reverser?
i hate it when ppl call it a 'GG1/2' it was actually just a 'G' as a 'GG1' is 2 Pennsy G wheel arrangements back to back.
actually it was made into a self-propelled blower used to melt ice off of switches etc. similar to those jet powered things CSX and NS have. it was not in regular duty.
I would like an explanation on that lower engine.
The upper engine is a German streamliner. It's on the DLS.
Claude
This is embarassing but I can't find the website where I got those pics.
Both are German and the first one was a prototype of an armored train. I'd like to know more about the second train as well.whistlehead
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The second looks like a double-fairlie. speaking of which:
This one's preserved on the Ffestiniog, and they STILL BUILD THEM!!!
This one's preserved on the Ffestiniog, and they STILL BUILD THEM!!!
whistlehead
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...But it has two boilers, whilst a meyer only has one.
Double-fairlie, so there.
Chris
Double-fairlie, so there.
Chris
magickmaker
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sethmcs;431192 Both are German and the first one was a prototype of an armored train.[/quote said:
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Apologies to Whistlehead if he has read it. I fell into the same trap of writing before I had completely researched my books.
AndreaLuigi (below) is correct, it is a Fairlie, or more correct a hybrid Fairlie-Mallet compound and originally had an overall roof. This was provided because steam and brake controls were at the ends of the locos as they operated over public roads, hence the side plates over the bogies. Later the canopy and end controls were removed as shown in the photo. They were replaced by Meyer articulateds with single boilers hence my senile confusion.
Apologies to Whistlehead if he has read it. I fell into the same trap of writing before I had completely researched my books.
AndreaLuigi (below) is correct, it is a Fairlie, or more correct a hybrid Fairlie-Mallet compound and originally had an overall roof. This was provided because steam and brake controls were at the ends of the locos as they operated over public roads, hence the side plates over the bogies. Later the canopy and end controls were removed as shown in the photo. They were replaced by Meyer articulateds with single boilers hence my senile confusion.
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AndreaLuigi
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After a short search I can correct a bit the information given.
The first èpicture is that of the Br 19 1001, the V Steammotor locomotive build at the beginning of the '40 in Germany and that worked so well, the US Forces took the prototyte to the US to be studied at the end of WWII.
I made a report of this locomotive that you can see here: http://www.trainzitaliafoto.com/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?t=4133
The second picture is that of the three Fairlie Bo' Bo' steamlocomotive in 750mm gauge build by the Sächsischen Maschinenfabrik in 1902 for the Rollbockbahn in Saxony and classified 99 161, 162 and 163 by the Deutsche Reichsbahn in 1925.
One the 99 162 of them still exists and is conserved by the Museumsbahnhof Oberheinsdorf.
The first èpicture is that of the Br 19 1001, the V Steammotor locomotive build at the beginning of the '40 in Germany and that worked so well, the US Forces took the prototyte to the US to be studied at the end of WWII.
I made a report of this locomotive that you can see here: http://www.trainzitaliafoto.com/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?t=4133
The second picture is that of the three Fairlie Bo' Bo' steamlocomotive in 750mm gauge build by the Sächsischen Maschinenfabrik in 1902 for the Rollbockbahn in Saxony and classified 99 161, 162 and 163 by the Deutsche Reichsbahn in 1925.
One the 99 162 of them still exists and is conserved by the Museumsbahnhof Oberheinsdorf.
I stand corrected. The one on the DLS is the 01.1100, kuid 67810:102. The body is similar, but the DLS locomotive is a standard rod-drive locomotive rather than a steam motor. http://www.auran.com/TRS2004/DLS_packcontents.php?AssetPackID=3713
Claude
ClaudeAndreaLuigi
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In the last days I found the MSTS version of the Br 99 162 ocomotive, asked for permission and converted it for Trainz.
A lot of works is still necessary to reach the level I want, but, thanks to Frank Schneider, the draft is here:
A lot of works is still necessary to reach the level I want, but, thanks to Frank Schneider, the draft is here:
Wow. Now that's what this thread is about
Excellant work.:Y: That is exactly what this thread is about. Turning strange prototypes into workable Trainz models.:udrool: :mop:
In the last days I found the MSTS version of the Br 99 162 ocomotive, asked for permission and converted it for Trainz.
A lot of works is still necessary to reach the level I want, but, thanks to Frank Schneider, the draft is here:
Excellant work.:Y: That is exactly what this thread is about. Turning strange prototypes into workable Trainz models.:udrool: :mop:
That Engine is on the DLS, "S 3/6", But It is a HIDEOUS Model, and Needs Dependencies from these Even More Awful Multi-colour 0-8-8-0Ts, Which Have Slide Valve Gear that Move Up, Down, and Nearly THROUGH the Slide Parts.
AndreaLuigi
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Both these locos are on the DLS.
The first is the S 2/6, Br 15, the first locomotive in the World to travell faster then 150 Km/h. The second, Br 61 is an old content revamped in 2007. In fact most people doesn't knows that the Br 61 has been build at the end of the '30 in Germany in two pcs. The fitst, 61 001 was a 4-6-4T the second a 4-6-6T.
The picture, token at Henschel at the time of delivery, was of the 61 002.
The first is the S 2/6, Br 15, the first locomotive in the World to travell faster then 150 Km/h. The second, Br 61 is an old content revamped in 2007. In fact most people doesn't knows that the Br 61 has been build at the end of the '30 in Germany in two pcs. The fitst, 61 001 was a 4-6-4T the second a 4-6-6T.
The picture, token at Henschel at the time of delivery, was of the 61 002.
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""Oldtimers Alert""
I barely remember a website with a Budd Railcar (or similar) with a jet engine pod attached to the roof (crew inside were fitted with USAF bonedomes I Kid You Not)
I think the jet pack was a pair from B49 inner pylon IIRC
The rocket sled rules--- 2 mins for Hammersley Iron route -- then 2 baseboards into the Indian Ocean off the end of the pier
Waz
""Oldtimers Alert""
I barely remember a website with a Budd Railcar (or similar) with a jet engine pod attached to the roof (crew inside were fitted with USAF bonedomes I Kid You Not)
I think the jet pack was a pair from B49 inner pylon IIRC
The rocket sled rules--- 2 mins for Hammersley Iron route -- then 2 baseboards into the Indian Ocean off the end of the pier
Waz
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The DLS, "S 3/6"
http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showpost.php?p=433114&postcount=2282
Edit; And the BR 61 001
http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showpost.php?p=434390&postcount=686
http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showpost.php?p=433114&postcount=2282
Edit; And the BR 61 001
http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showpost.php?p=434390&postcount=686
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