Some Feedback On Un Released Stuff!

betsy662

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Upon going into the forums early this morning, 07-27-08, I was surprised to learn that no one could download the beta versions of Ben Neal's museum pack as well as John's Cass No. 5, understanding that these guys depend on feedback from these beta units to make fixes and needed adjustments, I can give some feedback on the three engines I did some running of, the others will have to wait till I have time.

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This Cass Scenic Shay is beautifully rendered, the coloration is nice, a little bit dark, and could stand a little soot, not much since this is a tourist locomotive, therefore, should also remain in tip top condition.

The cab isn't really there from what I could tell, if John puts a nice cab in this Shay, it can be deemed, Perfect! At least in looks.

Cons- There needs to be some steam puffs coming off the cylinders as the shay is running, any sound problems I might have been experiencing might have more to do with the fact I'm running TRS2006, so can't say much about any sound problems do to just that.

Adding an engine crew would help with the looks as well, other than that, this engine in my estimation is just about ready.

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Ben Neal's Heavy Mikado

What a beautiful engine, the color rendering is perfect, Ben is getting as good at weathering his engines in the virtual world as I am at doing the same on my HO scale engines.

When I tested these engines on my Withlacoochee route, they pulled a lot of poly's, and my frame rates were horrible, when I moved them over to my Forney Museum module, the frame rates picked right up, (I guess my Withlacoochee River is over detailed!).

The Mike ran beautifully, would like to see a little more smoke when the engine is struggling to start a train, and wouldn't mind seeing steam shoot out of the cylinders on takeoff, however, there is only so much we can do with the technology, I'm not sure that anyone can capture that effect.

Ben's new cab is terrific, I like it a lot better than the old cabs on his earlier efforts, I hope he sticks with this cab, though the detail is sparce in the cab, its still offers better visibility in this cab view than in the light mike and his earlier engines.

Overall, this engine is probably ready for release, as I didn't see anything wrong with it, other than part of the engine crew is missing, wheres the fireman?

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2-10-0 Decopod

Or Russian, as they were commonly called, in about 1917, there was an order for a bunch of decopods by the Russian rwys, when Russia fell to the communists, naturally Baldwin found themselves stuck with a bunch of 2-10-0 steam engines, they became known simply as the Russians, and were subsequently sold off to American railroads.

Ben has finally done what needed doing, making a decopod, and she is a beaut, again, Ben has mastered the weathering on his steam locos, that till now, I had only seen on actual model train engines, these engines not only will look great hauling tourists on a tourist line, but will also look right at home hauling freight and passengers on the Johnson City route, as well as on the Withlacoochee River route.

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I'm definately looking forward to the release of all of his engines, and usually do go to Subpar Productions website to look and see if he has done anything new, sadly, unless your a member of the Carson Car Shops forum, now you can't go and download the "Public" beta's any longer, so I guess we will all have to wait for the full release.

The cab on these decopods is the same cab as on the Heavy Mikado's, there were no issues with any of these engines that I could find, other than those already mentioned, of which nothing can probably be done on those issues as it is.
 
Me and dylan also have noticed that when you couple the locomotives(the mueseum locomotives) together for a double header there is a large gap inbetween the couplers as if they were being held together by a fishing line. But other then that these locomotives are beutifuly done,although a little hard on frames,but the detail on them is well worth it.
 
I also was able to download the great loco's, and I am VERY impressed! :D A few things about No. 90 though: The pilot is incorrect, it doesn't have those step.... uh..... thingies on it, and the classification lights don't seem to be in the right position. Other that that, I think these engines are perfect!!!! (Other than the lack of a Reading 6 chime whistle for No. 90. :p)
 
Not to be pedantic, but you should probably give feedback where the creators posted the items, so they might actually see it :)
 
Not to be pedantic, but you should probably give feedback where the creators posted the items, so they might actually see it :)

You just want me to join your forum!:hehe::hehe:

Actually, most of them come here too...........:wave::wave::wave:
 
Where can I download those? I signed up for that Carson forum but it requires admin approval and I haven't received the approval yet. Especially the #90 like 2-10-0.
 
Where can I download those? I signed up for that Carson forum but it requires admin approval and I haven't received the approval yet. Especially the #90 like 2-10-0.

all the beta links where taken down due to people downloading them without giving feedback. You'll just have to wait until they're released.
 
Ben, what is different with the CDPs on your site from the betas?
In other words, is it worth downloading them and reinstalling them over the betas?
 
Ben, what is different with the CDPs on your site from the betas?
In other words, is it worth downloading them and reinstalling them over the betas?
There are several changes to each, so it is best to download and install the new ones.

Cheers,
Ben
 
Where can I download those? I signed up for that Carson forum but it requires admin approval and I haven't received the approval yet. Especially the #90 like 2-10-0.
Sorry - I didn't have computer access for much of the weekend, and am now just catching up. However, Ben has released these earlier today - check his site :)
 
Downloading now! These look great! I can't wait! :D

Thanks for making such awesome steam loco's as freeware. I don't run steam engines too much but when I do, these one's will be waiting in the shops, just waiting to go. :D

Keep up the great work! ^^

:wave:

Gisa ^^
 
Sorry to double post but it seems that the consolidation .cdp is broken. I've downloaded it twice, but both times I tried to install the .cdp, it says it's broken. I continued installing it, but the locos won't show up. :'(

Everything else works great though. :D

BTW, does anyone know why I can't get the whistle to sound in railyard, but why I can in driver? :eek:

:wave:

Gisa ^^
 
I believe the topic of this discussion was giving feedback to the creators of these engines, so here it goes...

These engines are great! It has been a while since any decent large standard gauge steam power had been released. The only feedback I think I can give to make the engines better, would be more diversity in the whistles. Other than that, I would say these engines are fantastic!

Here, two 2-10-0s tackle a 2.5% grade in Colorado.
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Did anybody else notice how close this engine resembles Nevada Northern #40?
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EDIT: Nevada Northern #40
http://www.railtravelcenter.com/images/351025.jpg

-DRGW489
 
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