Rio Tinto's WA Iron Ore Railroad [Search for Infos]

flusi737

SBB Cargo Germany
Hello,

I currently try to rebuild the Rio Tinto's Iron Ore Network between Karratha and Paraburdoo in Western Australia + maybe even its branchlines for my fictional APM Railroad. I'll try to get the route as prototypical as possible though + also do the real units.
It is pretty hard to get enough information about the line and its operation procedures, given the fact that it is private and in a very remote location. Also the Images on Google Earth for example do not show the current track layout since they are far too old (2011 mostly).

So if anyone here is from Australia or knows friends from there that could provide some info, please do so :)
Most needed are:

- Infos about the Signals and what aspects they show (the ones that still exist),
- Unloading procedures (do they use the mainline units for that, switchers, do they seperate them into parts, when do they get checked for faults, what about air brake tests?),
- Then the current or old Yard layouts / Maps of them + the mines,
- the Siding names,
- Speed signalling (do they use in cab signals, is there a general limit, speed signals?)
- Locomotives, i've seen Images with 2 or 3 at the front - are 2 actually able to pull 29.000t along the whole line?
- Grades, is there a maximum in both directions?
- ECP Brakes, Dynamics - do the units even have the last ones? Seen a cab without indicator for dynamic braking lately

I do know about the Pilbararails website, know of most images and charts available at google - i searched about stuff for more than 30h in the last days i guess. But it's still not enough for beeing able to rebuild it.

Any kind of help would be appreciated.
Greetings from Germany,

Felix

PS: posting this in general since it does not quite fit into any category in my opinion - its not only about the prototype and could have screens and pictures of the line in it later
 
Kind of a big ask Flusi as for starters the GE Rio Tinto use are way bigger in the radiator section then there US counterpart's, I have a bit of info I'll get together and send it your way not too sure how much help it will be but i think ya could of asked this in the Aussie screenshot thread but the forum police may of objected lol.
Cheers Mick.:)
 
Also the Images on Google Earth for example do not show the current track layout since they are far too old (2011 mostly).

Forgot one more resource that will be better than Google Earth. The West Australian government has high res, up to date mapping imagery online. Will be good for you to map out yards etc in major towns, but I'm not sure about the coverage in more remote areas.

https://www.landgate.wa.gov.au/bmvf/app/mapviewer/?shutterId=ap&_ga=1.177470368.443954114.1483371808

This image is from September 2016 in Karratha with a big GE loco at the depot.

 
Hello,

I currently try to rebuild the Rio Tinto's Iron Ore Network between Karratha and Paraburdoo in Western Australia + maybe even its branchlines for my fictional APM Railroad. I'll try to get the route as prototypical as possible though + also do the real units.
It is pretty hard to get enough information about the line and its operation procedures, given the fact that it is private and in a very remote location. Also the Images on Google Earth for example do not show the current track layout since they are far too old (2011 mostly).

So if anyone here is from Australia or knows friends from there that could provide some info, please do so :)
Most needed are:

- Infos about the Signals and what aspects they show (the ones that still exist),
The only optical signals that exist now are in the respective yards, and at the mine loops. Generally the yard running signals are 4-aspect as found at BR, with shunt signals in the yards. "signals" on the mainline are nothing more than a location marker board, with a 2-letter siding abbreviation and number, ie EM3 = "Emu 3 signal"

Unloading procedures (do they use the mainline units for that, switchers, do they seperate them into parts, when do they get checked for faults, what about air brake tests?)
The trains are setup using mainline loco's, then they are detached and the cars indexed by a trackside positioner arm.

Then the current or old Yard layouts / Maps of them + the mines
I'm not aware of any publicly available info, sorry.

the Siding names
From Dampier: Parker Point-2 Mile-7 Mile-8 Mile-Brolga-Dingo-Dove-Dugite-Emu-Galah-Gecko-Gull-Ibis-Koala-Lizard-Lyre-Pelican-Possum-Rosella-Wombat-Wombat Junction-Banksia-Mallee-Mulga-Para.

Speed signalling (do they use in cab signals, is there a general limit, speed signals?)
Entirely in-cab signals, with only a couple of line-side speed boards in special locations. 100kph light engine, 80kph empty trains, 70kph loaded, all turnouts are 60kph.

Locomotives, i've seen Images with 2 or 3 at the front - are 2 actually able to pull 29.000t along the whole line?
Out of Para and Yandi, the trains are rear-banked, usually with a double, and 2/3 head-end locos. 2 locos will get you home from Wombat Junction/Rosella. Actually, a single loco will get you home (just) from Rosella...And we're grossing 34,500 tonnes, not 29,000. :p

Grades, is there a maximum in both directions?
2% (1:50) ascending grade against the empty trains, with .42% against the loadeds.

ECP Brakes, Dynamics - do the units even have the last ones? Seen a cab without indicator for dynamic braking lately
ECP is standard on most trains now, dynamics fitted to all loco's. Only the Mesa-A/Mesa-J trains (mines near Pannawonica town) run pneumatic braking now.

i searched about stuff for more than 30h in the last days i guess. But it's still not enough for beeing able to rebuild it.

Any kind of help would be appreciated.
Greetings from Germany,

Felix
I work that track and even I wouldn't consider trying to do it, it is a huge ask...Dampier-Rosella is 250km, with another 130km to Para...
 
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