Where locomotives and cars are concerned, I look for quality American content. While I've seen Railworks in videos, I honestly prefer Trainz. The community here on the forums is extremely helpful, so that gap between the ones who like it ultra-realistic and those who just want to run trains isn't that wide. I breifly had MSTS, and while the framerates were pretty good, Trainz is much, much easier for installing engines and cars. With a simple program like WinZip, you can open and instal files without much headache. Changing hornsounds/interiors is a snap. Also it beats MSTS in terms of graphics. So I would say that Trainz outranks both of them, execpt that there needs to be an updated version of the UP Big Boys which Railworks does have.
Railworks or Trainz? Whats your opinion on both?? Since they have their disadvantages
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I don't want to get stuck on this thread as each time a RW v Trainz comes up it is the same thing differently phrased - and said so. All I will say is that not being a techy, I find Trainz one heck of an easy thing to build with and that will apply to an awful lot of others. Once this thread dies down I will wait for the next re-incarnation for whatever number it is......
TheWaluigiKing
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One more thing almost ALL Railwork addons are payware.
Being a newbie at this, I am amazed at the amount of stuff for Trainz that I have downloaded in the last 10 days, since I got TS12, and 95% of it was free. In addition, almost all of it works very well. I am used to spending a ton of money on content for flight sims, so this is a very pleasant surprise.
Heh, when I got my first FCT I was dumbfounded at the amount of things I was able to download, all for a reasonable fee. I've purchased a few payware addons, but the great selection of free content is a big plus for Trainz. And it is a definite relief in this economy.
Even in Zusi after completion of a task, you will get a score for on-time performance, losing points for speeding, uneconomic running, or jerk (derivative of acceleration).
What's the difference between games and simulation? Two shows are coming up in the next few weeks here in Germany. One is Gamescom in Cologne. The German distributors of Trainz and Railworks will be there. It's definitely the consumer market. The other show will be Innotrans in Berlin. That one aims at the railway professional. It's where you'll find Zusi. Why? Even the pros don't always need a fully featured simulation with a hydraulic cabin, which may be deeply immersive but is also highly expensive. For instance, a recent project for the Danish State Railways DSB, called "GreenSpeed", which is about running a train economically (read: eco-friendly), uses a Zusi-based simulator with prototypical cab controls for tuition (http://forum.zusi.de/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=10871). And yet again, it's about time, timetable and score.
Or has Carsten gone down the road of the Trainmaster people and focused on selling to prototype railways?There's a lot of hot air being posted on the RW forums about the forthcoming announcement at Gamescon, most of it pure speculation.
Maybe they're forming an alliance with N3V...
I guess the big announcement today was the release of Train simulator 2013 on the Railsimulator for September 20th on Steam.
AlanBradbury
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Seems the RW announcement will mean a partial freebie upgrade in terms of GUI for those of us who have RW at the moment, but minus the new content, which you can apparently add, which is fair enough although I'm not especially interested in the new content which is announced. Be more interesting to see what it runs like than what it contains. I have an I7 processor and Win 7, which seems to run RW okay, although I'm less impressed with the load times RW displays, so I imagine that will also run the new version reasonably well, but probably no better than it does already.
If not exactly right at the cutting edge, an I7 is still a pretty high end processor, however, unlike with Flight Sim fans, where pretty much everyone goes for it on hardware because they have to in order to run FSX, train simmers are less inclined to do so, and I'm predicting the already widespread complaints about how it runs will probably get another airing and I'll be very surprised if it doesn't break something in TPD content.
Good luck to them with it, but PS3 controller capability and more eye candy is not really what I wanted to see, I'd have been more impressed with an attempt to fix things that were already busted in the DLC, improving the load times and the content creation tools, and to see some more added realism. I guess that going for the gamers with eye candy payware DLC is their intent rather than catering to the DIYers and hard core rail nuts. But if they are going that way, then they'll have to improve customer service when it comes to patching busted features on that DLC, people will only put up with so much before they decide not to open their wallets again, and if changes are made at the expense of alienating hard core simmers, then they'll have risked holding onto the hard core customer base as well. MS found that out the hard way when they dropped FS and went with Flight, which lasted about six months before going tits up, and the Railworks developers should note with a cautionary eye that this was on Steam too.
Al
If not exactly right at the cutting edge, an I7 is still a pretty high end processor, however, unlike with Flight Sim fans, where pretty much everyone goes for it on hardware because they have to in order to run FSX, train simmers are less inclined to do so, and I'm predicting the already widespread complaints about how it runs will probably get another airing and I'll be very surprised if it doesn't break something in TPD content.
Good luck to them with it, but PS3 controller capability and more eye candy is not really what I wanted to see, I'd have been more impressed with an attempt to fix things that were already busted in the DLC, improving the load times and the content creation tools, and to see some more added realism. I guess that going for the gamers with eye candy payware DLC is their intent rather than catering to the DIYers and hard core rail nuts. But if they are going that way, then they'll have to improve customer service when it comes to patching busted features on that DLC, people will only put up with so much before they decide not to open their wallets again, and if changes are made at the expense of alienating hard core simmers, then they'll have risked holding onto the hard core customer base as well. MS found that out the hard way when they dropped FS and went with Flight, which lasted about six months before going tits up, and the Railworks developers should note with a cautionary eye that this was on Steam too.
Al
Not another one of these threads 
. It seems these days every other thread is Railworks V Trainz V MSTS V Locomotion V Whatever else. It really drive me nuts. We are on here because we like Trainz. This is not a Railworks forum. Go post this on a neutral forum. Rant Over
. It seems these days every other thread is Railworks V Trainz V MSTS V Locomotion V Whatever else. It really drive me nuts. We are on here because we like Trainz. This is not a Railworks forum. Go post this on a neutral forum. Rant Overlackoo11111
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Are these routes / trains / scenarios also available as a freeware for Trainz ?
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amigacooke
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AlanBradbury
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lackoo11111
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Do you expect us to do all your work for you?
Yes . I'm too lazy . :hehe:
Not exactly . Check the list again .
lackoo11111
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Hmm . You are right .
