PC to iMac

youifhonk

Track Work Expert
Hi all,

Haven't posted on here in a long time. I am due to replace my old Windows PC with a lovely shiny iMac:D. And as my iMac will be vastly more powerful than my current PC I would love to get back into TRS. So my question is how do I transfer my current TRS Content from PC to iMac if it is at all possible??

Many thanks
youifhonk
 
Hi John.

There are three ways to go with this.

1) Purchase the Mac version of Trainz which I think is the equivalent of TS2010 or TS2009 SP3.

Not all items will work and there are some limitations on certain aspects of the program in this method.

2) Go with Boot Camp.

Boot Camp will allow you to install and run a full version of Windows 7 or Windows 8 on your iMac just like you'd run Windows on a regular PC. This requires purchasing a licensed copy of Windows and configuring Boot Camp to allow a dual boot. I've never done it, but I've seen it in operation.

3) Go with a Virtual Machine such as Parallels (recommended VM software).

A virtual machine allows the best of both worlds. The guest virtual machine will run all your PC applications in an emulated PC running on the OSx host machine. This too requires a licensed copy of Windows plus Parallels for the PC emulation. There are some trade-offs here with the emulated machine with memory being one of the main problems because you are sharing the memory for your virtual PC environment with what is needed to boot up and run your MAC.

So I hope this helps give you an idea which way to go.

John
 
Just be aware that the equivalent money will buy you a more powerful machine in the Windows world. Apple's average profit margin is 24% I think Acer is about 1%, ASUS 5% which basically means you pay more for less.

Cheerio John
 
I'd just go with bootcamp, you probably will get a pretty darn good sized hard drive when you get a new system. Make sure your iMac has a dedicated GPU, not a low end or integrated one. That solves the mystery.
iipsrv.fcgi
 
Thanks for your advise guys, when I get TRS up and running through whatever method I'll post back and let you know how I got on.

I know that for iMac money I could get a vastly powerful machine, but I don't want all the problems that come with a Windows PC. I want a computer to be able to do the same basic operations day in, day out.

Once again thanks for the advise.
John
 
Hi John.

There are three ways to go with this.

1) Purchase the Mac version of Trainz which I think is the equivalent of TS2010 or TS2009 SP3.

Not all items will work and there are some limitations on certain aspects of the program in this method.

2) Go with Boot Camp.

Boot Camp will allow you to install and run a full version of Windows 7 or Windows 8 on your iMac just like you'd run Windows on a regular PC. This requires purchasing a licensed copy of Windows and configuring Boot Camp to allow a dual boot. I've never done it, but I've seen it in operation.


John
So if you do this can you run TS12 on the iMAC?
 
Thanks for your advise guys, when I get TRS up and running through whatever method I'll post back and let you know how I got on.

I know that for iMac money I could get a vastly powerful machine, but I don't want all the problems that come with a Windows PC. I want a computer to be able to do the same basic operations day in, day out.

Once again thanks for the advise.
John

I think that is a belief rather than anything else. Commercially companies use Windows in large numbers because its secure and does the job. If you use the same methods as Apple and buy a reasonable quality machine and restrict the programs you use under Windows you can get a system that works well for considerably less.

Cheerio John
 
Hi,

My experience on a Macbook Pro is that Trainz 2009 works much better in Boot Camp than with Parallels. I have 8 gb RAM so that was not a big issue. Early on I had Parallels and VM, and Parallels was better. But that was years ago now. The video card on the iMac may be better enough than the Macbook to make a difference to make a VM work. You could compare the specs and judge. If processor and video are not significantly better on the iMac I suggest to stick with Boot Camp.

Best of luck to you
Kevin
 
There is a great deal of information on the relative benefits of Windows and OSX. It's really a question of doing your own research and making your own decision.

and realistically how many people understand enough about the information available? Are there any advantages of OSX over Windows? I've seen Macs used to support a particular piece of software that the client was used to but I think that's the only reason we put Macs in and even then we often dropped in a Windows machine along side for compatibility reasons or language support.

Cheerio John
 
Trainz Mac runs reasonable well on my old MacBook Pro 2.16 17". I have to run in windowed mode with everything set to mid range, but it works well for me. Should fly on a new iMac with settings maxed out in full screen.*
A few caveats:
I use Otto's Speedtree fix to turn the wind off.*
I use Trainz to build model railroad type routes.*
I haven't downloaded a route in years.
Trainz Mac has enough built in content to keep me busy for forever. Aside from Profig's trees, Maddy's roads, JointedRail signals and some rolling stock I have very little downloaded content.
I use selective compression and don't overload my routes with garbage. I build to operate, not take screenshots. Just enough scenery to be plausible is easy to do.
If I could turn off shadows, I could run full screen and up the "sliders" with no problem.

Any larger routes I enjoy I built in an older version of Trainz. I keep a bootcamp install for those to play with only when the weather is bad. I prefer the older versions personally. I have tons of content downloaded over the years for it.

With that, I see no reason why you wouldn't load the Mac version over booting into Windows. Having a basic CMP is a blessing for me, kind of like Trainz Objectz in 2004. The only reason I would suggest keeping a Windows version is for fixing errors with PEV's excellent tools if you download a lot of content. Trainz Mac works excellent for me and my situation. I have no need to upgrade my computer for a very long time. Your new iMac should do anything you want with Trainz Mac. I'm humming along just fine with it on this old dinosaur.

Just some random thoughts from a guy with a going on 8 year old Mac.
 
Regarding the iMac, Hardware capability, price, and what you can get from Windows with the right setup, it kinda depends on what you'll be doing OTHER than using Trainz.

If you'll be doing a lot of work projects / creative schoolwork, a Mac is the way to go. For basic needs like word processing, spreadsheets, browsing the web, and downloading content, a good PC with a good graphics card (Most standard Macs use an NVidia with 512Mb of GDDR5. 512Mb isn't amazing, but its not terrible. Its like a standard).

From the price standpoint, going for the best but cheapest, Windows 7 (8 if you don't mind) + a Core i5/i7 2nd-4th gen processors, 1 GB GDDR5 video card and at least 8 GB DDR3 of RAM should do wonders for you. Inexpensive, but powerful enough to get though Trainz with little to no problems. Plus, you'll be using the standard 2010/2012 edition, not a Mac designed one, so you won't need to worry about "being behind the times". A good quality Windows 7/8 PC with a monitor (assuming somewhere around 23") can cost anywhere from $600 to $1,500. An HP ENVY h8-1445 with the new AMD FX 8 core (instead of a standard 4 cores, we got 8. Effortless multitasking potential here) clocked at 3.1 GHz and 1GB GDDR5 dedicated card, 12 GB of RAM (a good thing, you're getting an extra 4 GB of RAM than the iMac would net you) plus a 2 TB HDD for $1000 total (that's standard, now it's $600, no monitor on either choice) will far surpass what you could probably get from any Mac. Plus it's upgradable, so you won't need to worry about having to buy a new one every few years, just upgrade this one until nothing is compatible (like Windows XP. Keep using it until it no longer works with anything, ever).

If you're going to be doing a lot of creative work (ie: lots of Keynotes, Spreadsheets, Word processing, animation, etc.) alongside Trainz, definitely a Mac. Although the iMac is an All-In-One (which means heat wont be released as efficiently as a standard desktop or laptop) with the right upgrades it'll work wonders. I've taken the liberty to do some looking for you, a iMac @ 2.9 GHz Core i5 gen. 3 with 1GB GDDR5, a 1 TB "Fusion" drive (Roominess of an HDD with the speed of an SSD), Pages, Keynote, & Numbers preinstalled, and 8 GB of RAM (16 adds $200 to the cost) will run you somewhere around 2000 USD. Upgrading this is pretty much not an option, so make sure you "future-proof" it by getting what you may need in the future.

But buy what you think you'll want and need - and for Windows Virus software, avast! Antivirus (paid option) is a good choice. I use the free one and it warns you when a virus/malware/trojan/whatever gets onto your machine. Handy peice of software, I love it.
 
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