Osgood Bradley 'American Flye'r coaches

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I'm presently involved in modeling the Osgood Bradley 'American Flyer' coaches built for the B&M and NH railroads in the 1930's. I'm modeling in Blender for TS2010. I have drawings of the various cars, but no underbody or bogey details. I've Googled searched these cars looking for photos or additional drawings for details. It seems on line photos are nearly non-existant. Anyone got an idea where I can find some.
Also, it seems that these cars were originaly built with no end of train lighting. Were these a latter addition, or was a portable end of train lighting device used?
Additional info would be appreciated.
Regards
 
I built an E&B models kit of one of these a year or so back and had to install the underbody details. I think a set of drawings showing the underbody arrangement was included. I'll run by my dad's house tomorrow and check.

These cars predate fixed marker lights. I've never had the pleasure to see one in person (is that even possible?), but I suspect the marker light mounting points were located on the corners of the car, about 3 feet below the roof line (based on a similar vintage lightweight car I have access to).

Most photos of these cars I've seen were published in books. However, you might find some on rr-fallenflags.org and passcarphotos.info.

Cheers,
Ben

EDIT: The kit only had a picture of the arrangement, and too small to be helpful, too.
 
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These cars operated with the NH untill its demise. I remember seeing them often on B&M trains out of North Station, Boston in the sixties. The B&M cars were sans skirts at that time. (Not sure if they originally had them!)
I will check the refernces you gave.
 
I looked and can find 1 photo, floor plan, and a cross section but no under body. The mass is given as 107,000 lb. on one page and 108,000 lb. on a deferent page. If you are willing to find them articles can be found in:
Railway Age, Apr. 7, 1934 and Jan. 5, 1935
Railway Mechanical Engineer, Feb. 1935
No idea where to find them.
 
Well, I spent several hours on the internet this morning and tracked down some info on the cars.
Whitpass, I followed your leads and found that Kalmbach Publishing has a library (in Tennesee) which includes quite a collection of old back issues of Railway Age Gazette/magazine. They have at least your referenced 1935 issue archived. However, it seems that accessing the archives is a time consuming chore-4 to 6 weeks-and still somewhat of a shot in the dark.
I pulled out my small collection of B&M Bulliten and Shoreliner (NH) magazines, and thumbed them for pix, but not much usable.
Then, in a flash of brilliance, while still shaking off last nights Budweiser cobwebs, I went to the obvious solution; The New Haven Historical and Technical Association (publisher of Shoreliner mag) web site. Lo and behold! They have at least two different issues of the Shoreliner, featuring the cars, which are reprints of older issues. I'm in the process of ordering the back issues now.
N8phu, I chased down the site you rferenced, the diagrams are excelent, and will probably serve as a basis for the modeled cars' bogeys.
Thank you gents, for your leads.
If anyone else comes up with some some info, I''d appreciate the pointer.
Thanks again and regards to all.
 
Well, the model is coming along just fine. I'm using Blender 2.49b. I have pretty much completed the main body, roof, and diaphrams. This will be the basic car. I havn't added windows yet, as the prototype came in a several flavors; which included a 'day coach' and a 'delux coach' version, with 11 and 10 windows, respectively. A 6 window 'cafe' car was also built for the New Haven. The cars very widely in the various skirting arrangements, also; none, some, or all, depending on railroad and car age. I'm planning on modeling all window arrangements and partial or no skirts. (New Haven discarded the bogey skirts almost immediately, for maintenence reasons.) I'm still awaiting reprint copies of Shoreliner magizine from the NH historical site, for underbody details.
Modelig has gone reasonably well, so far, except for the rounded roof ends, which took sever hours to complete, as Blender has no 'easy' way to accomplish this while holding to prototype detail. Much of it had to be 'freehanded' but very much resembles the original when rendered. So far i've generated about 275 faces, with about 260 verts. I think this is reasonable for the car body, considering its curvature and interior surfaces. I estmate another 700 faces for the 11 (24 faces each with extruded sides) window versions, as well as another 150 faces for underbody details. But it seems the chars, at abot 40 faces each is going to be monster load, since there are 46 of them in the 'day coach'. That's about 1850 faces just for chairs! They will all be duplicates of the one original chair, but it still comes out to a lot of faces. Anyone know of a way to lessen the load? (Besides painting chairs on the windows!) I still have to add fairly detailed bogeys and couplers, as well as grab irons, which will drive the poly count even higher. I hope I'm not gonna end up with a nicely detailed monster that will stutter even the most stout computers. What do you think?
 
I'm presently involved in modeling the Osgood Bradley 'American Flyer' coaches built for the B&M and NH railroads in the 1930's. I'm modeling in Blender for TS2010. I have drawings of the various cars, but no underbody or bogey details. I've Googled searched these cars looking for photos or additional drawings for details. It seems on line photos are nearly non-existant. Anyone got an idea where I can find some.
Also, it seems that these cars were originaly built with no end of train lighting. Were these a latter addition, or was a portable end of train lighting device used?
Additional info would be appreciated.
Regards
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Something else for ya..

Look on Google books... there are a lot of Railway age and the like up there....

for free.....


and in PDF downloadable format....

For example, here is Railway Age volume 32 Jan thru Dec 1901

http://books.google.com/books?id=Eo...ce=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

I also found quite a few of them on the Internet Archive.... they store more than just websites..........

Hack
are you answering my question?my english is poor ...so.... sorry i beg your explaination?
 
a2233138 - Please go away, your in the wrong forum. I have a Budweiser headache and am in no mood to solve Chineese puzzles!:confused:

n8phu - I will check out Google Books as you suggest. Still awaiting info from NH Historical Association.
Btw, the model is coming along well. It's a big learning experience for me, so progress is slow.
 
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