need help working a route

[bjay88]

ok, so here is a picture of what im trying to do with my coal mine

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/6162/unledww.png

so, i want the coal train to load, run around and head back the way it came, the diesel train to do the same (but unload)

as i have them now they either get to the mine the same time, stop and get stuck, or if i have one arrive while the other waits where it is in the pic, the 1st train wont run around, it wont run around as it says the track is reserved for another train.

if you dont understand let me know, ill be back later tonight to check.

 

[Satyr]

ok, so here is a picture of what im trying to do with my coal mine

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/6162/unledww.png

so, i want the coal train to load, run around and head back the way it came, the diesel train to do the same (but unload)

as i have them now they either get to the mine the same time, stop and get stuck, or if i have one arrive while the other waits where it is in the pic, the 1st train wont run around, it wont run around as it says the track is reserved for another train.

if you dont understand let me know, ill be back later tonight to check.

G'day.

I think you might need a third track in your mine to allow the locos to run around the train.

E.C.

 

[bjay88]

that was what i was afraid of, really wanted to only have the two tracks, maybe ill try have one train wait till the other is leaving the mine somehow

 

[Ghost42]

ok, so here is a picture of what im trying to do with my coal mine

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/6162/unledww.png

so, i want the coal train to load, run around and head back the way it came, the diesel train to do the same (but unload)

as i have them now they either get to the mine the same time, stop and get stuck, or if i have one arrive while the other waits where it is in the pic, the 1st train wont run around, it wont run around as it says the track is reserved for another train.

if you dont understand let me know, ill be back later tonight to check.

Unload coal at a coalmine? Not sure what you are trying to do.
Rog

 

[delgroot]

let the diesel coms in wehn the coaltrain is load and run around and there is no problem.

 

[F2Andy]

If you have signals in both directions at both ends, it should work in theory. You may want to read this tutorial, which is about stopping a second train entering an area when another train is there (though in a different situation):

http://www.trains.0catch.com/Signalling Crossing Tracks and Double Track Junctions.pdf

If they still will not run around, you will probably be best using trackmarks and uncouple/couple commands.

 

[stagecoach]

One train needs to wait outside of the area until the runaround has been completed and only then enter the second track. This can be done effectively with the "post message" and "post message and clear" driver commands.

Coal train
Drive to mine
load
post message ***** task 1 completed
wait 1 minute
runaround
post message ***** task 2 completed
wait for message and clear ***** task 3 completed
drive to its destination
drive to TM (somewhere before the mine so it does not obstruct the runaround)
wait for message and clear ***** task 4 completed

Diesel train
Drive to TM (as above)
wait for message and clear ***** task 2 completed
drive to mine
unload
post message ***** task 3 completed
wait for 1 minute
runaround
post message ***** task 4 completed
wait for message and clear ***** task 1 completed
drive to destination

 

[bjay88]

i have used signals but the train still stops saying the track ahead is reserved for oncoming train, even though the 'oncoming train' is stopped at a signal due to the 'trigger multiple signals' rule.

there is also heaps of space for the run around to be done, maybe i have to stop further away, im not sure, ill keep messing about with it

 

[stagecoach]

The stopped train still has instructions to move once the signal clears so is in fact controlling the track ahead. Try my method as it always works for any complicated set up I try to do.

 

[bjay88]

ok, i'll try that once im on my trainz pc, i've never used the post message commands before, are they simple to use?

 

[stagecoach]

Yes. In the driver schedule you add in the same way as all other driver commands. When you select post message you will get a window open with names of drivers, these dont need to match your drivers name, they are used as reference only. Select one and a second window opens with a list of numbers, select any one, you are done. The wait for message and clear works in the same way, but needs to match the post message for it to work.
Sample
post message
Alistair, completed task 2
wait for message and clear
Alistair, completed task 2

The waiting train B will not proceed until it gets the message sent by train A, it then deletes the message so that a following train using the same wait command cant proceed until it gets another message sent. With these commands it wont make any difference if train A is late or early. It could also be set up using the schedule at TM and control a single track line.