Most up to date processer, and suitable other above recommend specs for TS12 (NOTE)

[KenGreen]

RR
I just visited the site where I had my laptop built and they offer an all in one in which you can specify a i7 3770 processor and a GTX680 graphics card. How that lot gets cooled beats me unless you get a 12" desk fan with it.

Ken

 

[Red_Rattler]

seems as thou usb3 is much better than usb2
but most machines seems to be still usb2, with only limited available of i7
edit - that's another thing - how is an all-in-1 suppose to cool, especially with the workings in the back of a moniter.
and a monitor is going to get warm at some stage.

 

[clam1952]

USB 2 or 3? Not important if you are only using USB for a mouse or keyboard, only of real benefit I would think if you are running external drives in which case I'd use eSata or Firewire anyway, not so prone to packing up as the poorly made USB interfaces in many drive enclosures.

AMD and the Bulldozer disaster? Seemingly can be outperformed by a Phenom, however some of the more recent reviews and tests are now saying it's better than first thought. Brings into question just what tests are people using are they even comparable and how valid are they?

AMD exiting the Desktop line entirely? not so sure, there is due to be a revised Bulldozer out in the third quarter, code name Piledriver, I thought they were just going to use it in APU's however it now says an AM3 version on several sites, no way of knowing how true this leak actually is but I live in hope! : http://www.techpowerup.com/166555/P...edriver-quot-FX-Processors-Begin-Q3-2012.html

 

[RRSignal]

RR
I just visited the site where I had my laptop built and they offer an all in one in which you can specify a i7 3770 processor and a GTX680 graphics card. How that lot gets cooled beats me unless you get a 12" desk fan with it.

Ken

Lol, that i7/680 has got to be like trying to cool a volcano, hehe! Actually, I imagine they have the drivers configured to limit the CPU and GPU to slow down under load - essentially what the chips do already but at a lower threshold.

 

[RRSignal]

I hope you're right, Malc. Competition is a good thing and I'd love to see AMD get Intel back against the ropes.

I wouldn't worry too much about the USB either, Red. A bigger issue is getting a machine that would support SSD to it's fullest potential i.e. a machine with a SATA-III interface. Trainz benefits greatly from SSD.

 

[Red_Rattler]

And yes I did use non capitals, etc yesterday

With SSD's, they are very small capacity, but much faster, but we have found'em something (laptop wise) that is packed with features including a 2GB dedicated graphics & i7-something-a-rather & a reasonably sized HDD.

 

[Red_Rattler]

Here you go:

http://www.auran.com/shop/display_product.php?PID=362

On that page, the minimum specs for the processor is: Processor: Pentium D 3.4GHz (or equiv), but for the recommended specs it states: Core 2 Duo (or equivalent), but for recommended specs, what would that be in the GHz part?

 

[fran1]

I'd say a minimum of 2.5 ghz. With 2010 I had an intel E8500 @3.16 ghz running at about 75% core usage. The harder they run the hotter they get and they last less time.
I'm bearing in mind 2012 is supposed to be easier to run hence I say minimum 2.5 ghz.

 

[RRSignal]

Get the fastest Intel processor in raw GHz that you can afford. Up until last month, I ran Trainz quite well on a 3.2GHz Pentium. It's essentially a 5-year-old CPU*. Right now, the i5 represents the sweet spot for Trainz and for a lot of gaming in general. I have an i5-3570k which is 3.4GHz out of the box. AMD appears to have some nice offerings out there too, including a CPU that does 4.2GHz stock, no special cooling required. However, I haven't seen any matchups as far as Trainz goes.

 

[bunkerrattmk2]

AMD fx4170 cpu quad core unlocked@4.2 /zalman cnps9700 cpu cooler
ASUS m5a97 motherboard
8 GB crucial ballistix tactical tracer ddr3 1600
HIS radeon 6790 iceq x turbo
WD veliciraptor 10.000 rpm 74 gb trainz only
nzxt 2m sleeved led kit blue
creative x fi extreme gamer sound card
ultra lsp 750 watt psu
asus dvdr rw
2 x 100 gb maxtor sata 7200 rpm hdd's windows 7 64 bit\raid 0
thermaltake full amour all steel case/250mm side intake/2 120 mm front intake /1 120mm rear exhaust/1 90mm rear/1 90mm top exhaust fan's
razer death adder usb mouse
saitek eclipse keyboard
logitech 5.1 speakers
acer x213h 22inch wide lcd
1 wd 2tb external storage drive usb3.0

 

[RRSignal]

How does it run? Whar are your FPS and settings? Any comparisons with other/older chips? That looks to be a good rig and, on paper, the 4170 looks to be a great Trainz CPU.

 

[whitepass]

I read sum reviews and a Phenom II 965 ran faster than the 4170!

 

[RRSignal]

I saw those too, but that's with major market games, not Trainz or similar sims. Trainz handles things quite differently than, say, BF3.

 

[bunkerrattmk2]

it holds it's own ,for the price the 4170 was a steal,framerates with in game routes avg around 45 or so depending on my graphics settings ,the 10k rpm hdd makes a noticeable increase as well ,i just rebuilt it about 3 months ago to these specs, it's not a super highend system but it's stable it chews most anything iv'e loaded on it . i did have fun building this ine i recycled a few parts and only spent 600 bucks .

 

[bunkerrattmk2]

the cpu itself will take a bit of overclocking also ,what i like is the new asus bios . but it's like anything else .you get out what you put in to it i try to use quality parts ,and yes a small bit is for show .as for trainz 12 ,it's more than able to handle it .

 

[johnwhelan]

the cpu itself will take a bit of overclocking also ,what i like is the new asus bios . but it's like anything else .you get out what you put in to it i try to use quality parts ,and yes a small bit is for show .as for trainz 12 ,it's more than able to handle it .

Most home computers run about 5% CPU utilization, trainz will keep one or two cores running at 100% which means many machines will overheat when running Trainz as their cooling system isn't designed to run the CPU at 100%. Translation you can cut manufacturing costs by designing the cooling system for 95% of your users rather than 100%. Over clocking will generate more heat which compounds the problem. If you are going to overclock you need to take this into account.

Cheerio John

 

[malikrthr]

I plan on getting the Phenom II 965 Black edition Deneb. I wonder how Trainz 2010 would run with that. By the looks of things I believe that it is a quad core processor and from what I heard, Trainz 2010 runs great with quad cores. I hope to get 2010 soon.

 

[bunkerrattmk2]

Most home computers run about 5% CPU utilization, trainz will keep one or two cores running at 100% which means many machines will overheat when running Trainz as their cooling system isn't designed to run the CPU at 100%. Translation you can cut manufacturing costs by designing the cooling system for 95% of your users rather than 100%. Over clocking will generate more heat which compounds the problem. If you are going to overclock you need to take this into account.

Cheerio John

AMD fx4170 cpu quad core unlocked /zalman cnps9700 cpu cooler
ASUS m5a97 motherboard
8 GB crucial ballistix tactical tracer ddr3 1600
HIS radeon 6790 iceq x turbo
WD veliciraptor 10.000 rpm 74 gb trainz only
nzxt 2m sleeved led kit blue
creative x fi extreme gamer sound card
ultra lsp 750 watt psu
asus dvdr rw
2 x 100 gb maxtor sata 7200 rpm hdd's windows 7 64 bit\raid 0
thermaltake full amour all steel case/250mm side intake/2 120 mm front intake /1 120mm rear exhaust/1 90mm rear/1 90mm top exhaust fan's
razer death adder usb mouse
saitek eclipse keyboard
logitech 5.1 speakers
acer x213h 22inch wide lcd
1 wd 2tb external storage drive usb3.0

as you see if you look close enough at the specs ....cooling is not a issue the cpu is nice and cool under it's zalman cooler and it's nice BIG case with lot's of cooling fans ,

 

[tension69]

Most home computers run about 5% CPU utilization, trainz will keep one or two cores running at 100% which means many machines will overheat when running Trainz as their cooling system isn't designed to run the CPU at 100%. Translation you can cut manufacturing costs by designing the cooling system for 95% of your users rather than 100%. Over clocking will generate more heat which compounds the problem. If you are going to overclock you need to take this into account.

Cheerio John

Trainz nvr takes any of my cores to 100%...the only software that does is Nero while transcoding large video files.

 

[Red_Rattler]

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